Bronze question: Why does Xerath see high-ELO play?

SecretAgentHulk·2/21/2015, 10:04:25 PM·1 votes·1,515 views

I hear a lot about how the mobility meta makes it hard to play low-mobility champions (e.g. Veigar). I understand those arguments and I think they're sound.

I see Xerath a lot in the LCS though. As best I can tell, he is not very mobile. He has an average (high end of average?) movespeed. His Q slows him and his R roots him. He has no dashes. And so I would like to know how Xerath survives in the mobility meta.

Is it because the mobility meta isn't the dominant force it's made out to be? (I don't think so, because I understand the arguments for why it is OP, but I'm looking at all possibilities I can think of.) Is it because he has high scalings? (I wouldn't know, I play mostly supports and tanks and wouldn't know good scaling if it bit me in the face.) Is it because he has a slow and a stun on his W and his E? ETA: Is it because his ult allows him to snipe while staying out of danger?

And once we've identified what makes Xerath so strong in a mobility-dominated meta, can that knowledge be useful when trying to come up with balance suggestions like we do so often? (E.g. maybe suggesting that Veigar could have better CC, like a slow on Dark Matter's target area before it hits—which could interact really well with the new delay on Event Horizon—instead of being all OMG RITO PLS NURF ZED/LEE/KALISTA/FOTM.)


EDIT 2: From the comments so far, it seems that range is one of the characteristics that makes Xerath OP enough to play in LCS (and if you're being played in LCS, it's because you're easier to abuse, so yes, Xerath is OP in these players' hands). Interesting. I always hear about CC being the counter to mobility, but is range another counter? Is this a discussion worth having, as a community?


EDIT 3: Range keeps being the consistent answer. What if Zed/Lee/Kalista/etc range was nerfed? Would this impact the game positively? Would this still let the mobile champs be playable?

Also, why does waveclear come up so consistently? My understanding is it's a liability because you can't farm under tower if you're always pushing, but does it become an advantage when you're teamfighting? (I'm Bronze. I freely admit it. This is the first time I'm trying to understand stuff like this because the LCS makes good weekend watching. Explain it to me like I'm Bronze, not like I'm stupid. *insert joke here*)

14 Comments

Retillin2/21/2015, 10:13:15 PM4 votes

Massive Ranged. Massive Ranged. Wave clear. Massive Ranged.

Syn Zykan2/21/2015, 10:08:26 PM2 votes

His range means being less mobile doesnt hinder him as much. He also has really good teamfight damage and amazing waveclear along side his seriously strong poke

Tentacle Love2/21/2015, 10:09:51 PM2 votes

As I understand it, Xerath has ridiculous range, a very long stun, and high damage. Combined with a team that can support him and tank for him, he can poke safely from extreme range with no counterpoke.

High skill players with good coordination can compensate for his lack of mobility.

Skia Asteri2/21/2015, 10:47:07 PM2 votes

It is a matter of been able to attack effectively from far enough back that gap closers cannot easily engage on him, more so if his team has proper peel to stop and punish deep dives.

Old Man Teeto2/21/2015, 10:17:52 PM2 votes

Xerath has the best wave clear in game currently.

Isn't constrained by mana as badly as the other wave clears.

His ultimate lets him "follow up" from complete and absolute safety.


Short to Medium ranged mages can't compete with mobility. Brand Heimerdinger Karthus Malzahar Swain TwistedFate etc have to mix it up far more.

SlackerboyTC2/21/2015, 11:18:11 PM1 votes

Well the thing is, compared to other non-mobile champs he actually gets bigger range compared to them so he will pretty much viable still.

Sire Hippington2/21/2015, 10:26:13 PM1 votes

Extremly strong laneingphase due manasutain passive and easy to land longrange poke(Q) High poke and over all damage Semi-global followup ult Longranged 2.25sec stun, massive for creating catches and can win a fight on it's own if u land it on a carry during a standoff.

His massive range allows him to deal with mobillity to some extend. He still struggles alot vs the more mobile picks, like ahri or le blanc though.

ForgiveColour2/21/2015, 10:41:44 PM1 votes

safe safe safe safe safe

but he is immobile how is he "safe" from mobility creep? Well then i guess he is cancer

Leti the Yeti2/21/2015, 10:06:28 PM1 votes

far ass fuqing range god like wave clear passive that helps mitigate mana issues