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[Tips & Tricks] Newbie seeking advice on Cho'Gath lane/jungle, team-fighting gameplay...

Sir Jae Bea·1/7/2016, 2:37:43 PM·3 votes·1,155 views

I recently purchased ( Cho'Gath, I will refer to it at "Cho" from this point forward ) and found I really liked playing as him in spite of having lost my lane against a Tahm Kench. I've decided I want to main Cho and am just looking for some tips & tricks to get me started. In my first game with Cho I learned I was able to best use Rupture ( Q, knock-up ) by predicting where my foe would go and my Feral Scream made both a nice repellent/a nice tide-turner against unsuspecting attackers. With that said I know I will only be a newbie ( and playing with other newbies like myself ) for so long. I need knowledge to find what is/practice what is key for Cho's gameplay.

I want to play with Cho in lanes and the jungle. For laning I'm assuming you start with a point in Vorpal Spikes and try to position yourself to hit the enemy as you attack minions while either using your other skills to disengage from fights or engage fights if/when an ally ganks. I imagine taking camps in the jungle is similar; using **Vorpal Spikes **to clear your camps faster while Rupture can help you avoid taking damage from the camps themselves with it also being your key ganking skill. The thing is that is about all I've figured out with Cho; are there any key components to his gameplay I'm missing?

Looking forward to hearing from you, Sir Jae Bea.

6 Comments

OK Rengar1/7/2016, 3:34:32 PM1 votes

I played Cho for a good amount of time in the jungle. Here arw some tips I can give you: 1.Never start with Q and always try to start blue 2nd, even if you are on the top side of the Rift. You'll have to back after 3 camps including the heal from smiting red buff, so the blue buff will help you use your spells and not worry about being oom when wanting to gank. 2.When ganking, use your Q before W. Rely on your E till they reach the tower and from there on you can Q to secure a kill or harrass them more. 3.When you received reach 6, please afk farm till you get 3 stacks of Feast before ganking. The larger appeareance makes you more feared, trust me. 4.Try finishing Rod of Ages before your jungle item. And for your enchantment, take cinderhulk. 5.I build cho cho with Dead mans plate and a Merc treads/Tabi and RoA as core items. Other items are situational.

But then again, I am only silver 4, so I may lack some experience, or my info can be wrong. I hope I helped you.

BastionKross1/7/2016, 4:09:51 PM1 votes

I've laned with Cho quite a few times in past seasons. Hit kit has remained mostly unchanged since then, the main difference being a buff to his ult.

Don't spam spells. Cho doesn't have a great mana pool and his abilities will drain it quickly. Use your spells when you're sure they'll land, like if someone jumps on you, or to get CS if you're backed to the tower. You can still harass in lane, just try to CS a bit between spells to build your mana back up.
To make Q easier to land, hit your W first. You have to walk up a bit, yes, but a silenced champion rarely escapes a well placed Q. If someone is all up in your face, Q directly under yourself. Now they either eat the damage, the knockup, and the slow, or they back off.
Cho is extremely reliant on his CS-ing skills since is passive is borderline OP if you're constantly farming. If you're not great at CS-ing, consider leveling E a bit to help with that. You don't have to max it first, just two or three points until it's easy to CS.
Build for the situation. Cho can be a great bodyguard tank, bruiser, or mage. Try to figure out what your team will need from you most each game, and build items that reflect that build style. If your team already has a tank, and they're doing a fine job, build AP or bruiser. If your team has enough magic damage but your squishies are being blown up by assassins, build tank and scream at them. You can even build attack speed and max your E first if you want more of a DPS build, just be sure to pick up some tank items as well so you can stay alive long enough to DPS things.
is probably going to be your core item no matter what build path you're going for. It fixes Cho's mana issues, gives him some damage to trade and harass with in lane, and makes him beefier all at the same time. After that, it's really up to you and what you think you need.

SnazzyTheMister1/7/2016, 4:31:42 PM1 votes

Chogath is a great champion to start learning the game on. my tips would be:

the silence on your w is really strong and makes fighting cooldown reliant champs (like riven) easier.

having your feast stacks give you alot of free hp which means you will pretty much always have some durability regardless of how you are building.

your feast does true damage which means the only thing between you can chomping someone to death is their heal bar. your all in with feast is good and if someone tries to dive you while you have it up you can probably turn it on them.

feast always does 1000 true damage to minions and monsters so you can secure things like buffs and dragons early game cus feast will do more damage then smite

dont feel like you need to save feast that much tho its cooldown is fairly low and you want those stacks so you can chomp canon minions in lane to push quick and big jungle monsters to build those stacks. when you are at full stacks you can start just using ult for damage in team fights.

if you are in lane you can potentially go chomp a near by jungle camps

a warning you can be kited around. you are going want to commit to going in and learn to recognize when you aren't going catch someone and back off. learning this type of stuff is important as a new player and its something that's only really gona come with experience. if you are wondering if you can go for a fight tho i would suggest you go for it just to help learn your limits.

builds and skill orders are something you can look up and differ depending on playstyle but...

i feel like 3 points in e early gives you some good control without being to reliant on your mana pool and i like items like item 3027 rod of ages and item 3110 frozen heart as both lend themselves to chos tanky-mageiness.

other things i've seen are maxing w first for the longer silence building full tank building full ap itemizing some attackspeed to make more use of vorples

try different stuff. whats important at you level is that you have fun and enjoy the void :D

kile1471/7/2016, 6:39:20 PM1 votes

I personally love Rylais on him because it gives you a slow on your W and your vorpal spikes, which makes cho inescapable. When building items remember that your ult+RoA gives you a lot of health, so building resistances is a lot more effective. Also, CDR is massively important for any build, because cho has long cooldowns on very high utility and high damage spells.

Sir Jae Bea1/7/2016, 8:51:30 PM1 votes

Hi guys! I want to thank you all for your tips & tricks regarding Cho. Sadly there isn't anything I can really do aside from try your suggestions ( which I am doing now ) so I hope that alone is satisfactory. Are there any match-ups I should be cautious with such as Cho vs. Nasus or Cho vs. Teemo, so on and so forth? I just wound up stomped by a Nasus I thought I had beat ( had him farming under tower last game ) only for him to walk out of it and just slaughter me. I'd appreciate any tips on match-ups to watch for/avoid and how to play them!