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So what really is the junglers fault?

Kovah·11/13/2016, 6:05:19 PM·3 votes·1,563 views

Everyone knows the jungler gets blamed every time if a lane loses, but what really IS the junglers fault?

Example game: Red team jungler camps mid, and gets red teams mid fed. Blue teams jungler camps bot lane and gets blue team bot lane fed. Is it red team junglers fault that blue team bot is fed and red team bot fed a combined 13 deaths?

I ask because im a jungle main. This preseason has been absolute CANCER for me so far. Because of the matchmaking, there are MASSIVE skill gaps in these teams, and I mean MASSIVE. EVERY game I've played this preseason there is always a lane that is so heavily outclassed that their lane opponent gets like 10+ kills before the 10 minute mark. Has this been happening to other people?

I mean what can you do when that happens? Or even better, when TWO of your lanes are feeding 5-10 kills before the 10 minute mark?

It's just a bad time to be a jungler. You should only be going jungle right now if you are ready to get yelled at, blamed, and flamed by at least one of your lanes.

18 Comments

ForgiveColour11/13/2016, 7:06:56 PM2 votes

Every lane gets ganked by other jungler but your jungler does nothing and still getting outfarmed

DrCyanide11/13/2016, 6:26:28 PM2 votes

To me, the jungler is most at fault when they act like the dragon pit isn't even part of the map. As a laner, I should not have to tell you to save your smite and move to the bot side of the map and prepare to take the dragon.

If you don't try to get Dragons and don't gank, as far as I'm concerned you lost lane. Your job is to apply global pressure and secure neutral objectives, not to act like Jungle Nasus.

Linna Excel11/13/2016, 6:23:25 PM2 votes

Some of this depends on the jungle champ chosen. If you pick Nidalee, Lee Sin, or Elise and you don't have several ganks in the first 10 minutes, you were doing it wrong. Now if your jungler has a champ who can sneak a dragon at the 5 minute mark and they don't despite an opportunity to do so, that's their fault.

FulleroDendrimer11/13/2016, 6:17:24 PM1 votes

Idk when lanes is pushed and u dont gank? Usually lane is pushed when enemy harrasses you so bad and dont gank when laners asked for gank?

grug11/13/2016, 7:02:59 PM1 votes

its the junglers fault if they do not balance out the net loss

ie you get ganked top (and die) by their jg and your jg does nothing to respond anywhere on the map thus creating a net loss in lane/objective pressure and net loss in gold.

Done2511/13/2016, 8:20:56 PM1 votes

In order of importance.

  1. Keep your jungle/the river secure and free of enemy champions.
  2. Secure Buffs/Drake
  3. Take advantage of over extended enemy champions if it makes sense. (No need to gank when the enemy Darius is lv. 6 with 100% HP and your lv. 4-5 Irelia has 10% HP.)
  4. Counter jungle the enemy jungler and steal his camps.
Electrify6911/13/2016, 6:10:30 PM1 votes

It's only your fault if you see mid or what ever lane getting camped and you do nothing if a lane is getting camped it is your job to counter jungle, counter ganking, taking objectives like dragon or Harold when the enemy is clearly focused on bot or top and it's basically free. Also i5 can SOMETIMES be your fault for not getting vision on the enemy jungler yes your layers have to ward but you as a jungler can buy control wards and place them on objectives and common jungle paths.

DunkinNoobs11/14/2016, 12:34:44 AM1 votes

If the enemy top laner picks something like Cassiopeia and plays super aggressive in lane and you don't gank her, top lane losing is your fault. Ditto for champs like Jayce Teemo Quinn. Certain champs gain a massive advantage for positioning aggressively and you need to punish them if they do it too often.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo11/13/2016, 6:10:39 PM1 votes

i thought it was supports fault?

ReshiKillim11/13/2016, 6:13:59 PM1 votes

When the jungler has the opportunity to save their teammates and doesn't go to help (EG: Seeing the enemy jungler on their way to gank), that's when a lane losing can be blamed on the jungler. Same thing with lanes as well. Outside of that, I'd say that the laners have no reason to blame the jungler.

Otherwise, things get really sketchy and tend to be either the laner(s) fault or a combination of the laner and the jungler not performing as well as they could.