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'If you play x champion I main after they've been changed and I've stopped playing them...'

The Sword Saint·10/20/2016, 5:50:39 PM·7 votes·1,352 views

'... you aren't a real x champion main like me.'

Right, because everyone knows that you spot real dedication by seeing who is the first one to abandon ship rather than trying to adapt, grow, salvage, and stick by something when things change or temporarily find themselves in a bad spot.

Clearly if I played old fiora for years and then she got her rework and I still play her and love her, I'm not a 'real' fiora main compared to someone who quit the game or abandoned fiora when she was changed.

Clearly if I've played riven for years, I should immediately stop playing league or change to a different champion if Riven ever gets a significant rework or number adjustment or else I'm not a 'real' riven main.

Newsflash: people can get attached and fall in love with different aspects of the same thing. If I love the idea of fiora/riven, or the lore, or the art style, or the playstyle that revolves around mechanics and timing and high skill caps, or any other thing about a champion then it wouldn't make any sense for me to drop them entirely just because some ability got changed or the best item build is no longer the one I liked the most in the past or some additional counterplay was added here or there. If I love and play a champion for reasons other than their winrate, exact current state of their abilties, or how they fit into the current meta, then of course I would stick with them through the 'tough times' or reworks or anything else that happens.

TLDR: If something happens that changes a champion you like so that you can't enjoy them anymore, thats sad for you but it doesn't mean other people who love the champion just as much or even more than you aren't allowed to still enjoy them and keep playing them.

23 Comments

Athenes Lulu10/20/2016, 6:02:39 PM3 votes

What, people say that?

The irony of those people.

TyrekGoldenspear10/20/2016, 5:54:57 PM3 votes

Good points. None of my mains have been reworked yet, but they'll always hold a special place.

Rivuo10/20/2016, 6:32:45 PM2 votes

I maind stricly shen top lane. I stopped playing him after the unjustified nerfs.

People can say whatever they want but im not going to keep playing my ''main'' champ because they become more of a liability in Ranked than some others.

For instance i love playing kalista, but i will never play her in ranked for the reason she is a liability and id rather play ashe or sivir even if i dont like to

Nagoh Shan10/20/2016, 7:15:25 PM2 votes

TLDR: If something happens that changes a champion you like so that you can't enjoy them anymore, thats sad for you but it doesn't mean other people who love the champion just as much or even more than you aren't allowed to still enjoy them and keep playing them.

People see a champion as what they were, so when riot changes something without respecting what already existed, then that creates a lot of salt. Yorick is a great champion now, Yorick wasn't remembered however, he was deleted and replaced by a new champion with new lore, that was given his name. Now due to decisions made by riot (Not because he was thematically a gravedigger), there wasn't a big Yorick population, so there was little salt there, but that's happened a few times in the game's history.

Shen, Cass the first time, Sona, and the Freljordian mess really killed a lot of what people liked in those champions, all to do what could have been done in a new champion release. The salt from that isn't invalidated by simply saying get over it. You are allowed to like something, but people get to be pissed that what they liked was removed and their thoughts ignored to add what you liked.

It's easy to not be annoyed when the part you liked wasn't changed, and while I may not agree with criticism in every case, I do have sympathy for the people who had their preferences eliminated for the sake of someone else's.

KindaStealthy10/20/2016, 8:10:30 PM1 votes

Is this post sparked by the new assassin rework or from something else? I have had a similar post, from opposite perspective that possibly you're not thinking about. For example for the past 2 years I have been almost exclusively a Nidalee and Lee Sin main. Luckily Lee Sin is in a state of balance where most considered him to be healthy for the game. Nidalee however is the contrary. She was the queen of the jungle b/c of her extremely high skillcap and ability to have great impact without disturbing the flow of the game with clumsiness/clunkiness, but this was only possible in the hands of a true master. I personally even at my lower end of the spectrum (GOLD) am not a master of the game, but I was a master of her mechanics therefore playing against people equally as "bad" at league my outstanding mechanic's would shine through. But now the problem is that some, not all, champions are being changed or stripped of there high skill mechanics. Ie: Nidalee resets

High skill cap can relate to timing, playstyle, actual combos. It relative to the individual champion, and in my champions case. I was stripped of my ability to exercise my knowledge of the champion, because too many people thought it was too hard to do.. So I no longer main what i used to consider my favorite champion in the game. I still play her but am always left with a bad taste afterwards. As some point you stop caving to bad decisions made by riot and take a stand. They finally listened to what was wrong with Kog, now he's old Kog again.. We want to be rewarded for playing and practicing something for hours, and in my case weeks worth of hours just practicing mechanics in a custom. You mention Riven, imagine Riven with no ability to squeeze out an extra auto because you lose an animation cancel b/c it makes too much of a skill discrepancy between bad players and good ones. Feels bad man, and if you don't understand why a person would chose to not play anymore maybe you haven't spent as much effort mastering something as them. You can't get time back, feels really sh*t when some one makes it a waste..

Kuzja110/21/2016, 12:14:06 AM1 votes

Corki Main, even after change. Only main him because of the concept alone and it's been this way ever since I first played League of Legends. Besides, the new update's improved his style.

AcidTheWarlock10/21/2016, 12:19:22 AM1 votes

I loved Ryze before the rework and I still play him after it.

And even if Rumble takes huge post-Worlds nerfs I'll still play him.

When Swain's VGU hits I'll play him.

And I'll keep playing Zed even if the assassin rework hurts him even more.

NazZomLord10/21/2016, 2:18:39 AM1 votes

I played alot of Shen before his rework, i never mained him but i just enjoy playing the rework, same goes for Vladimir they dont feel the same, i played them because i enjoyed how they did. With the reworks it felt ruined for me. Just my opinion.

legionnaire9910/20/2016, 6:06:56 PM1 votes

I mained( onetricked)the old fiora. 1 even with yorick and taric they tried to keep the way they played but for Fiora they did not they disregard fiora players in her rework. ( mord's rework was still worst in disregarding there mains) but still she a complete different champion.

On a side note Idc how much you love there look or there artwork gameplay is why you play and main a champion you will not main someone who's gameplay you hate)

Mommy Elise10/20/2016, 6:30:29 PM1 votes

I dunno if I've ever heard this before... sounds kind of straw-man ish to me. But that's not based on much evidence so I suppose it probably does happen.

I will say old Shen made me happy, and new Shen makes me less so, but I was never a main of him anyway, so I just play him less than the bit that I did before.

Paladin 0f Life10/20/2016, 7:03:30 PM1 votes

So um the gragas nerf hit him hard considering he was a early game lead grabber. 16 sec dash now that's dodgeable. No thank you not in ranked. He's not bad. But they killed the early presence that I loved about him. Now I'll play Swain and ziggs even if they aren't meta or nerfed. Swain was terrible at farming then got a huge buff resulting in a decent nerf. And ziggs was really tough to play with after he got nerfed due to seige comps awhile back. But they buffed him and even though he isn't meta I'm best with him and win a good bit with him. But just because I might not pick ziggs 100% of mid games because zed was cancer this season, but it doesn't mean he isn't my main.