Need someone to help me get better (im in bronze 3 lol)

XxGunSmith137xX·Nov 23, 2015·2 votes·648 views

I need help getting out of bronze 3, the first placement i got was in silver 2 but i got demoted all the way to bronze. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

10 Comments

The OasisNov 23, 20151 votes

On youtube there's a plethora of videos explaining things that would surely be useful to a bronze, I'm sure they would be pretty easy to find also. They include things like Zone Control, CSing, roaming, when to fight, how to determine what you should be building.

XxGunSmith137xXNov 23, 20151 votes

I have done that so many times, however, they make it seem so easy, they make laning seem so easy, they almost get no damage... i also feel like the playstyle of those challengers... is so different from us low elo players that i cant even use alot of their tactics... right?

PS: i just copied my rreply to the previous one since its the same

IonianNov 23, 20151 votes

Just spectate high elo games featured in the client. Watch what they do and copy them. That's how I got to diamond.

XxGunSmith137xXNov 23, 20151 votes

IonianNov 23, 20151 votes

Nope. You can always use their tactics. Some are obvious. Like you said, "they almost get no damage". Watch how they predict/react to enemy skillshots and dodge most of them. Also, look at what they build, how they use their abilities, when they roam, what objectives they take. Spectating games/streams to learn is much more than just watching some fancy, flashy high elo plays. Notice exactly how that Zed/Riven/etc. performed that combo, or how that Ahri/Orianna/etc. manage their mana.

XxGunSmith137xXNov 23, 20151 votes

But things like, having botlane feeding the enemy team, and having no vision (except for your wards in river, they dont have to focus on having a gank from a fed jungler or bot/toplane coming mid, because they've won their lanes,.. am i right?

ZLbSwAR23INov 23, 20151 votes

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I need help getting out of bronze 3, the first placement i got was in silver 2 but i got demoted all the way to bronze. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

I'll give you some advice.

Watch high level streams and go on Youtube to watch the LCS games. What do they do differently? I'll highlight the main differences between them and you that you'll need to focus on:

They focus on CS and XP more than anything. An LCS game typically has about 15-20 kills on the winning team. That's about half the average game in Bronze and Silver. Now, while this is going to be partly down to the fact that they're playing as a team of five with tactics, it's also down to the fact that CS is King. CS wins you games. XP also wins you games. If you have a CS and XP advantage over your opponent, you are winning your lane and you're more likely to win your fights.

Conversely, kills are not as important to them. They understand that if they die, they're going to be losing out on CS and XP and that's going to throw them behind. As a result, they don't take the risks that lower level players do. Lane phases are for getting CS and poking. The objective is not to kill the opponent but to deny their farm and get a CS and XP advantage over them. There are fewer kills in high level games because not dying is more important than killing. That's something you need to keep in mind the entire time when you're playing.

Picture this: You're in lane, you're level 5, your jungler comes in for a gank. You get your opponent down to 5% hp but they're under their turret. You dive and kill them, but they kill you in the process. Sound familiar? I've seen it countless times at lower levels. It's bad. Keep in mind that a gank does not have to end in a kill. Ganking is primarily to ease the pressure on a teammate lane, or apply pressure to an enemy in one. If you get your opponent to 5% hp and diving is going to get you killed, let them recall! You've got a chance to get about 12 CS unopposed, and if you last hit, your opponent is going to miss out on it. You can end up with a 24 CS advantage on your opponent, plus an XP advantage. That's much better than diving and dying under their turret. To put it into perspective, around 15 CS is equal to the gold you'll get from one kill.

I told my housemate, when he started playing, to remember that kills don't win games, but deaths do lose games. Yes, kills help, but dying has such a greater effect on the outcome of the game.

To summarise: Learn to last hit. Focus on CS over kills. That doesn't mean to say you shouldn't go for kills, but try to capitalise on your opponent's mistakes rather than just focusing on killing them. Avoid dying, the XP and CS losses are not worth the risk. Watching LCS games and high level streams will make this clear and show you just how important CS is. You'll also pick up on other things which you can use.

(Yes, have simplified and generalised the LCS games here. For the purposes of the thread (OP getting better), what I have explained is all OP needs to know. )

XxGunSmith137xXNov 23, 20151 votes

i do admit that i die a lot, however, i feel like those lcs games are so different, they seem to be able to farm so safe... whereas in my elo or in my games, i get harassed ALOT, so i feel like i have to return the favor,.. i thought it may be a good idea to post a link to my stats so you might have a better idea of my situation...: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/45937926#matches

I hope you answer soon, but thanks already :)

ZLbSwAR23INov 24, 20151 votes

It's not going to be easy! It takes practice. If you're not absolutely, 100% comfortable with last hitting, go into an bot game on easy mode and practice for half an hour. You need to be able to last hit every minion without fail, especially under your turret. Melee minions take two turret hits and one auto attack. Caster minions take one turret hit and, depending on your attack damage, one or two auto attacks.

You're going to be harassed by any good player. Denying farm is important, but not at the expense of your own farm. You've just got to practice dodging your opponent's spells and staying out of their range for auto attacks. You'll learn to be able to anticipate what they'll do. I can outfarm almost anyone in mid lane as Talon, melee or ranged, because I know what each champion will do to deny my farm. It takes time to learn.

Your CS is quite low in most of your games. You need to keep on top of it not only at the start, but towards the end of the game too. If you slow down, you're going to lose your advantage and your opponents will catch up with you on items. Check my games for example:

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/26787333#matches

I'll have over 200 on most games. That's not a high amount at all. I'm only ever below 200 if the game ends quickly or if I'm having an absolute stormer in terms of kills.

XxGunSmith137xXNov 24, 20151 votes

First of all, i want to thank you again, for your help (everyone btw) so i get that out of the way xD And then, ill do it now, however, what about the other aspects like improving my mechanics, being able to outplay people and knowing when to back? Cause i was watching the stream of Gross Gore yesterday and i saw he was roaming and stayed away from his midlane (as twisted fate) for a long time, his opponent didnt even try to push his turret, but as soon as i back (because of low health,..) my opponent pushes turret, they get gold advantage...

ALSO, what can i do about team mates? Team mates being toxic, teammates feeding, going afk?...