How do you know when it's you?

Jyoeru·4/18/2016, 11:54:27 AM·3 votes·610 views

Playing ranked and trying to improve and climb a bit. I know when I make horrible mistakes usually. But what I can't tell is when the loss came because of me or my part, or just luck of the draw in regards to other players on my team or the enemy team. I assume that if I get an A+ or higher, despite a loss, I did fairly well? Or is it literally, "You're bronze because you're bronze, and if you can't carry to beyond, that's because you're bronze?"

27 Comments

Slythion4/18/2016, 12:07:22 PM3 votes

There's almost always something to improve on, whether you should've placed more wards or made better shot-calling, there's always always room for improvement. Most games don't come down to being one player's fault, so I wouldn't stress about it and just focus on constantly getting better

disregardable4/18/2016, 11:58:54 AM2 votes

It's literally you're Bronze because you're Bronze. Now, not every single loss will be your fault (unless you're just super Bronze), but enough of them are your fault that you would be climbing if you did better.

4th Chiming Lamb4/18/2016, 2:37:49 PM1 votes

Knowing when it's you is like spotting the fool at a poker table. If you can't figure out who the fool is, or in this case, who's the bad player.

It's you.

Dehitay4/18/2016, 2:53:39 PM1 votes

Unfortunately, by the time you're skilled enough to know when it's you making the mistakes, you'll likely be out of bronze already. Maybe even into gold by that point.

GenghisEmo4/18/2016, 7:53:40 PM1 votes

Actually, if you loss less LP than what yoy win, its your team. In other words, Wins give you 25 or 30 LP, but loss takes away 10 or 12, its your team. System trying to get you out, but elo hell so real wont let you go.

If yyou get A or S you did good. Assuming it is a popular champ. Otherwise, not the best way to go about it.

NA Ranked promotes a inefficient style of play. Aka TDM or ARAM on SR. Find a way to brute force games. It doesnt take skill yo get Silver trust me. They are just as bad (Silver = glorified bronze). Brite force it.

Had we been on KR server low elo, you will see ppl playing relatively better than NA low elo. PC Bangs OP.

Fovere4/18/2016, 8:42:43 PM1 votes

Play games, you'll know.

Keep in mind climbing will be a less reliable experience than in previous seasons, so give yourself a good 300-400 games.

EndlessSorcerer4/19/2016, 12:27:33 AM1 votes

While there are some games that you just can't win because the enemy team has played that match better than yours, there isn't really any point in attributing the loss to your team.

I tend to always assume it was due to me. Even if I'm 20/0/X with the most CS in the game, the fact is that I will never play a game perfectly; there is always something I can improve on.

There is always something that you could have done better in the game to try and win it. If you focus on identifying what you can improve upon, you will learn improve at the game and climb naturally.

SoulNibbler4/19/2016, 2:04:51 AM1 votes

It's You. Sometimes it doesn't seem like it is, but you are always close to the rank where you belong.

Imagine if every game one person on either team was the sole reason for that team to lose. Sometimes that person might be on your team, other times that person would be on the other team. That person would only need to be YOU one time out of ten for you to be equal with everyone else. It's hard to not have a really bad game one time out of ten.

To offset this, some games you need to carry the game hard. THIS IS EXTREMELY EASY IN BRONZE. If you are not winning the game almost by yourself in bronze, then you need to look for a radical change in your approach.

friend me if you like : ( SoulNibbier ) . If you are one of the 95% of bronze people who just keep right on doing what they were doing and ignore advice, then rather than friend me, you may just try brute force gameplay to figure it out. Some people will only learn if they figure it out for themselves.

Communist Toast4/18/2016, 11:57:33 AM1 votes

getting a high rank is a good indicator, but not an overall.

you could do great but if it comes down to 1 team fight (which it usually does) then it could completely be your fault for losing the team if you pick the fight at the wrong moment

Pierce The Veal4/19/2016, 2:06:41 AM1 votes

Those grades are absolutely useless. I could skirt around teamfights stealing kills, and avoiding fights, get an S+, but the loss would still be on me.

Unfortunate Game4/18/2016, 1:05:35 PM1 votes

As you view the higher ranks you see something in common. Less mistakes.

The lower the elo, the more mistakes. The higher the elo, the less mistakes.

When you watch the lcs you see very few deaths, thats because they make less mistakes and play smarter, safer, etc. in that game.

For every death there was a mistake made on your part or someones part. I get it, some deaths you thought youd rely on your teammate and he screws you because hes too scared or didnt have the map awareness, or whatever and doesnt follow up or help you, and you die for it. It happens, but most if not all deaths will be a mistake you made.

If you care for it, record your games, and rewatch it and the games you think you played well, rewatch em and see how you really played. Youll soon realize how many mistakes youve made. You may not be punished for all your mistakes, but im sure some mistake/lesson will be learnt per game. Whether its not having vision, overextending, awkward positioning, etc.

So basically just record your games you play seriously in, and rewatch them to see what mistakes youve made.