Kindred's passive is unfairly balanced against her.

Wuju Lord·3/25/2018, 6:06:42 AM·5 votes·438 views

Simple, instead of making kindred's hunts all be in the enemy jungle, how about making it completely random so that the enemy jungler is forced to counterplay you?

As it currently stands, an enemy jungler simply has to complete his rotation in order to completely render a kindred underpowered for the whole game and it's irritating. I want to play kindred more but her current passive appearing only in enemy jungle camps makes it virtually impossible to get them. Sincerely, a sad would-be kindred main

4 Comments

Keshaun3/25/2018, 7:00:03 AM2 votes

If you play Kindred, it's not hard to plan your jungle pathing and gank patterns around your marks. Obviously its still random in terms of which camp it will spawn on, but you have a general idea of where and when it'll spawn. When I was picking up Kindred, I thought the same thing. It's UNFAIR! BOO! Once I understood how strong her marks were though (especially pre-reworked passive) I knew that it should be a challenge and a reward when you complete your hunt. I don't play her anymore really, but she doesn't need her marks in order to still be successful. Her marks are only there now to help you snowball if you're able to complete your hunts. Before the reworked passive though, her marks were more important but still weren't worth dying for. Hope this helps and good luck picking her up if you decide to play her!

SirLapse3/25/2018, 12:11:08 PM1 votes

Never be discouraged to play a champion you want to try. I will say that Kindred has one of the biggest knowledge/skill barriers in terms of learning, but you're just going to have to grind out practice tool or watch higher elo Kindred gameplay to understand what you're supposed to do.

There are also hella high amounts of negative stereotypes surrounding Kindred that are just outright wrong since only people who dedicate their time to learning her actually succeed with the kit. It's not a kit you can just randomly pick up and win with unless you're VERY experienced with both jungle and ADC roles already.

IP Masquerena3/26/2018, 4:22:47 PM1 votes

I think the marks have some dual aspect to them. Yes, it sucks that they are only on the enemy side, but they can be used to deceive the enemy as well.

Camp spaws on bot side, I mark the top enemy. Enemy jungler has to either head towards top, hoping I plan to gank so he can counter gank, or head towards bot and take the mark, hoping I don't gank. So if I have some deep vision and sit around KFC/Wolfs, I know where the enemy is going, and can safely go to the other side.
Mark an enemy jungle, path my way "falsely" towards him, then when out of vision, go farm the enemy jungler's bot side, or just gank bot. If I show my wool heading top, against a marked enemy, he will probably go towards there as well.
My mid lane enemy is having a rough time and I am in no position to help but their mid doesn't know that? Mark him and give my mid some breathing room just because the enemy mid will be cautious of a gank.
The plain old but gold "mark top gank gank bot"
Mark spawns bot, I mark bot as well, so enemy jg will be "encouraged" to go towards bot side, so I can freely gank mid or top, while he wastes his time waiting for me bot.

Kindred is still an adc, and so she can hurt badly even without marks. A fed Kindred, even without marks is still going to hurt.

Yes, at first I also though about "must get marks", as when I started playing this version of them, I was focusing on the play style of the old ones, but after a bunch of games, and understanding how much impact the mark presence alone has, she feels much more rewarding when played properly.

And don't fool yourself, at most you need 4 marks to be in a good spot, because of the huge 75 range buff. The next marks after that are just icing on the cake. Can you get more? Good. No? No problem. And you also don't need the 4 marks ASAP.