Getting hardstomped is essential for growth

dontspinbutwin·12/10/2019, 12:10:15 AM·9 votes·3,299 views

Example: I main Darius: the dude everyone hates fighting. Yeah. Raise your pitchforks, I deserve it.

Darius is very strong in dueling, with near unmatched duel sustain (only rivaled by perhaps illaoi), heavy burst, immense tankiness, movement crippling, godly duel potential, and 1v2 potential (or even 1v3+ if fed enough). As such, he does amazing against champion's whose weaknesses are Darius' strengths. For example, Darius tends to nut when fighting Naut top, as Naut lacks the burst or mobility needed to deal with Darius, and he just serves as a Noxian might meatshield for Darius.

However, he also has some really heavy weaknesses. No movement speed sterroid forces you to take ghost or build deadmans if you want more effective chasing, this movement speed weakness also means he's doomed if an adc knows how to kite (and he essentially can't kill ashe for this reason), if the enemy is super sticky, Darius loses all his sustain (so someone like riven or fiora), or someone who can displace/escape from Darius after he somehow gets on them (so someone like quinn, vayne, or zilean). As such, when I see zilean top (which I've actually fought a bit), I cry, as there is little to nothing I can do if the enemy is smart.

However, say I only fought matchups I was comfy with. Say I only fought Malphite, Naut, Yasuo, Garen, Aatrox, Mundo, and the such. I really wouldn't grow, now would I? I would only learn how to abuse Darius' strengths, and I would learn certain things, like animation canceling to get more passive stacks, flash Q to get noxian might, etc.

We all have those games where we fight hard champion counters. For me, it was stuff like vayne, ashe, quinn, graves, fiora, riven, Jax, Morde, and such. With some champions I fought, I learned that I shouldn't just blindly run into them. I really shouldn't blindly run forward into the enemy vayne, even if they're 1/5/2. I'll get chunked if they kite, and I will die. Rather, I learned after many bad games that the best course is to back up, hope vayne makes a mistake and tumbles into E range while chasing, then pull her in and commit. I learned that some champions actually outdamage me, even if I play to my strengths. Jax, fiora, and morde will dumpster me if I treat them like any normal fighter or juggernaut. I have to try and pick my fights, accept my loses occasionally, and look for windows to abuse. Stuff like that. Yes, theres a heavy chance I'll go 2/7 that game, and have my entire team flame me by saying something like "Wow who feeds with Darius? He's so broken, omg ur so bad". But I'll learn. I'll be tilted, but I'll learn.

Not really sure why I made this post. Just wanted player that were having bad games to hang in there. If I can climb from bronze 5 to Diamond 4, then by golly you can hit that skillshot.

(Also: mini Darius counterpick tip to those who struggle against him. Zilean with lethal tempo or glacial augment is Darius' biggest counter by far. Use this info as you will)

10 Comments

The thigh guy12/10/2019, 1:05:32 AM4 votes

You are wrong and right at the same time. Yes being stomped will teach you how to play from behind or at a disadvantage.

But EVERY game being a one sided stomp fails to teach you how to play against someone you are even with.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M12/10/2019, 12:56:48 AM1 votes

Seems related, one of my favorite games and probably the most satisfying win i had in s9 i was Jax top into darius. I got smashed and i mean SMASHED in lane haha it was brutal darius got first turret and i was 0-6/0-7, but in that game somehow my mental leveled up, i didnt tilt and i got back into the game and was one of the ones who helped carry my team to victory and the only one who was able to deal w/ the fed darius by the end.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3158571012/2036275581414080?tab=stats

Jamaree12/10/2019, 12:42:48 AM1 votes

Good advice

Dr Endeavor12/10/2019, 3:51:03 AM1 votes

Thank you for giving good insight. Hopefully your advice is taken better than mine was lol

xHeimtechZX12/10/2019, 3:52:13 AM1 votes

My journey of playing Darius has a lot of ups and downs. I enjoy playing as Darius, but his weaknesses just become so apparent to me. I think it takes a lot of might to get through his weaknesses. It lets me look up videos on how to deal with certain matchups and I learn to adapt. I'm not satisfied with my Darius yet, but the more I play, the better I get. This post is actually really encouraging for me, thanks. Personally, I like seeing Darius in my games. I can learn from them, see what they do differently from me. Lets me experiment with different things too other than the usual item 3078 item 3053 with Conqueror and Resolve.

Minimac200012/10/2019, 4:59:46 AM1 votes

I agree. Darius vs illaoi is a fun matchup on both sides. I think it is Darius favored, but I also main illaoi and can usually pull out a win from it if I play right. However saying, "play every hard matchup and get stomped repeatedly" I don't exactly agree with. I dodge every game I can into ryze/kayle/kennen/cassio top because it is so toxic to play against, I know I will tilt and be done playing. Tldr: Hard matchups even counters that are winnable games/interactable sure, take them all day. Ranged top not named teemo/heimer/gp/gnar makes me dodge and hold in multiple excessive expletives aimed at specific degenerates. You know who you are...

The Lookout12/10/2019, 3:19:40 AM1 votes

Fully agree. It took half a year (220ish games) of eating hooks and getting my teeth kicked in to get from silver to platinum in S8.