Honest feedback about Juggernauts in 5.16. Suggestions included.

Remurin·8/31/2015, 6:36:59 PM·1 votes·496 views

Hi. Plat 5 player here.

> Darius Darius > Darius doesn't need more buffs. He has a low winrate because his gameplay changed.Like every Champion he needs time to improve. I think the 15% heal per champion (max 2.) on axe hit is not good. He is a huge lane bully and only gets stronger after level 6. He is a huge threat to the team without even being fed. How to make him less toxic? >> Put Heal back to 10% per target hit from 15% (Hotfixed version.)


> Garen Demacia Garen is toxic. Right now its either a must ban or must pick in my games. I see him banned/picket 90% of all my games in the last 2 weeks. > Lets take a look how Juggernaut are defined.

> "Nasus. Darius. Garen. Skarner. When you think brute force, these champions should come to mind:_ powerful, durable, immobile and melee._ They’re League’s hulking titans who,** come late game**, turn into super tanky carries who’ll pretty much destroy anyone foolish enough to get in their way.
**(...stuff about nasus...) **The archetypal raid boss can only do his thing when he’s in melee range, and his lack of gap closer means he often has to rely on allied speed boosts like Sivir’s On The Hunt or well-aimed crowd control like a Morgana binding to get close, but once he does, he unleashes the power of his trademark Siphoning Strike."

"_ powerful, durable,~~ immobile~~ and melee._ " To be honest, he is powerful. Really powerful .. TOO powerful.

>"immobile" I'm just saying.

>"** come late game**" He shreks everything below 40% health anyways.

>"only do his thing when he’s in melee range, and his lack of gap closer means he often has to rely on allied speed boosts like Sivir’s On The Hunt or well-aimed crowd control like a Morgana binding to get close," Does he really need Speed up's? I dont think so. But its certain that they kill that target with Garen. Other points: Watch "immobile"

>He has % missing health scaling true damage with a powerful Base damage. >> Make him less toxic by either lowering his % missing health execute** OR** remove the base damage when used on Villian. >> Also make it no longer deal 1% true damage when hit by_ spin to win._ >> Lower his base regen to make him scale less extremly with EVERYTHING. Ever seen Lv3 Passive+Warmogs+Spirit visage? He dont need to go Base. He already has a powerfull regen passive which pays off if you back off from the fight, but does he really have to be DrMundo 24/7? >>Remove Silience or just make it interrupt casts.


> Mordekaiser** Mordekaiser** He is pretty strong IMO and his last Q is really unfair but otherwise he is great. Good alternative to ranged AD botlanes lately.
But fix that bug where Morde can give himself money (health support item)


> Skarner Skarner This dude is already in need for another Rework. Playing dominion is fun.

3 Comments

ReshiKillim8/31/2015, 6:46:39 PM2 votes

Skarner is still strong as hell, even after the nerfs. He's pretty much as strong as Hecarim used to be, but with more CC and itemization variability. Garen is the most unbalanced one however, as the villain mechanic is super strong and has a ridiculous amount of anti-carry power.

luckmallory8/31/2015, 6:58:19 PM2 votes

Darius- Needs Buffs but not to the areas they are giving it

Garen- Pick or Ban and strong at all stages of the game. In combo with dead mans and damage build can easily 1 v 3 and will kill the other teams carry no matter what every fight

Morde- Hard to tell. Solo lane morde sucks now but bot lane with a good support is actually very very strong

Skarner- Most broken champion in league ATM

The Yetii Rider8/31/2015, 6:57:38 PM1 votes

Lol fix that bug. Working as intended.