Remove Spellthief's Edge

rtbf36088737·1/28/2019, 4:34:08 PM·1 votes·1,015 views

item 3303

I see a lot of people bitching about mage supports bot lane.

Removing/ reworking this item to not add damage but still reward an aggressive play style would be a move in the right direction.

It might only be 39 damage off of Brand but its a step at least.

Support items in general have been shit since they made item 3069 item 3092 item 3401 anyways.

8 Comments

Dasdi961/28/2019, 4:39:23 PM1 votes

At least nerf the item. It has been buffes a ridiculous amount of times ever since its release.

Frosted Tips1/28/2019, 4:50:48 PM1 votes

Support items are not supposed to be good items. They are cheap because they are made for low income champions. Also it just needs its mana regen nerfed. Everyone has infinite mana now. Just nerf mana regen everywhere and especially on aggressive supports so they are punished more spamming.

Evíl cookíe1/28/2019, 4:54:17 PM1 votes

The item is not the problem. There are only 2 midlane champions played as Support: Xerath and Velkoz

Brand is a support champion as well as Zyra. Lux is a special case she is a hybrid in my opinion.

TOP 15 support champs plat+: (by popularity) 1 Thresh (27,8%) 2 Nami (18,6%) 3 Lulu (13;5%) 4 Janna 5 Pyke 6 Morganna 7 Soraka 8 Alistar 9 Braum 10 Zyra 11 Karma 12 Leona 13 Brand (4,9%) 14 Zilean 15 Sona

TOP 15 support champs plat+: (by winrate)

1 Bard (52,8%) 2 Thresh (52,7%) 3 Zyra (52,6%) 4 Soraka(52,6%) 5 Sona 6 Blitzcrank 7 Lux (51,4%) 8 Fiddlesticks 9 Nami 10 **Zilean **(50,9%) 11 Janna 12 Taric 13 Pyke 14 Alistar 15 Karma ... 22 **Xerath **(47,8%) 23 **Brand **(46,2%)

Source https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/overview/support

Looks like Thresh is pretty OP according to statistics.

rtbf360887371/28/2019, 4:59:09 PM1 votes

i guess when i say support items are shit i mean the 3 have very little in the way of identity anymore

melee? shield poke? spell thief anyone else? coin 100% concrete, forced item choices

the actual interactivity of each item sucks using relic shield mid/ late game is awful coins are so bland its just bards chimes but worth gold/ mana spell thief is just another example of more damage which in this meta.. sigh

the items are just bland and boring. supports have so little in the way of choice anymore as compared to other classes

its all the small chunks of damage hidden away in items/ runes/ kits that need to be whittled away a little at a time so that the burst meta can fade

Dracocrash1/28/2019, 4:59:25 PM1 votes

Many mage supports are broken, that is true. But not because of spelltheifs edge. Nerfing spelltheifs will gut already bad supports like karma who take it.

Unforunately the mage rework combined with ap item changes and gold income changes and many more poor balance decisions has lead to the current mage support meta. It's incredibly hard to fix, because once brand and zyra go xerath and velkoz will pop up, and so on.