ADCs have too much impact.

YOUGOTKILLEDBRO·6/22/2017, 10:04:33 PM·64 votes·3,136 views

Honestly, it feels like the whole game is determined by how good your adc is. If your adc gets picked off, the fight is over, but if it is your mid laner, you can keep fighting on some occasions. Why is this fair? ADCs shouldn't ruin the game. I should be able to carry as a jungler or mid lane, none of this protect the adc or lose bullshit. It is so annoying losing games when top and mid are fed but bot sucks. You have to snowball around adc you have no other choice. This is straight bullshit and I hope riot realizes how much power ADCs have right now. I was carrying games just a few patches ago with Zac and Warwick, but now I need my adc to win.

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GULAG 4 U6/23/2017, 12:02:23 AM13 votes

Last week it was the jungler, this week it's adcs.

Gaius Baltar6/23/2017, 2:24:42 AM11 votes

I think the main problem here is just how much damage reduction an ADC can get currently...

Deaths Dance 30% (that he would have to heal up tho)

Phantom Dancer 12%

Knight's Vow 12%

we could also count the resistances that Windspeakers Blessing Keystone give as damage reduction here.

Altogether an AD can get 54% damage reduction. He will still take some of that damage from Death's Dance but that's where the second currently too strong thing comes in: Heal and Shield amplification.

Supports and support junglers can amp up their heals and shields by over 50% aswell not to mention that there is a good item, Redemption, that gives another heal to champions who already have heals and shields.

Add to that, that AD itemization was buffed multiple times recently due to the ADC in 2k16/2k17 meme so that ADCs now have the ability to outdamage/outmitigate an Assassins damage.

In my humble opinion the problem in general is that high elo/professional ADC mains cry too loud when Assassins are able to assassinate them and Riot listens to high elo/professional players.

Nowadays it's not even "a good ADC can solocarry a game" anymore... it's just "the better botlane wins"

Sir Yamazuki6/22/2017, 10:45:20 PM10 votes

ADCs do have a large impact, they do every season basically, but it's not like they win by themselves. The support makes a big difference in the success of an adc and whether the jungle/mid camps their lane and whether or not top uses teleport to help them. The better adc can easily lose to a slightly inferior one If the team with the worse adc invests a lot into bottom.

TimX24968B6/23/2017, 12:42:14 AM7 votes

"carries have too much impact" thats the point of a carry...

AwesomeGuyDj6/23/2017, 3:36:20 AM7 votes

Oh boy. The character who is the designated CARRY meant to be the one dealing damage is the deciding factor? Wow, im so suprised. How about instead of complaining you just play for the team? You can be offensive while saving other spells to protect your adc. (Taliyah can poke with q and save Shove for peel, syndra can do stuff with Q W and save E for peel etc)

x Ape x6/23/2017, 4:48:51 AM6 votes

considering adcs have by far the least pressure around the map in the first 20 min with they only adcs having roaming pressure is twitch and maybe a godlike ashe arrow, also their supports decide 60-70percent of the lane a good adc should be able to decide team fights with rlly good positioning. in both solo and compettitive mid is the most impactful role since they have a lot of play making potential early on as well and carry potential going into he mid and late game. Adc's are forced to sit idly by for the first 15 or so minutes at least maybe more if you r playing more late game champions and if the rest of the map got destroyed by good tp flanks, jg ganks, or mid and support roams ur probably fked unless ur adc is a god. But if you outplay the enemy adc and can win a fight of better positioning even when ur team is far behind you deserve to win that fight because the single job for adcs is to be good in teamfights so they should be exceptional at it. While I agree some champs r 2 strong like caitlyn and draven in particular, even though i think ashe is the best adc right now shes played less and less agreed upon on being op, the role itself shouldnt be nerfed and maybe just a few specific champions.

Looknook6/23/2017, 1:14:10 AM5 votes

The ways in which a jungler carries or a Midlaner carries are not the same as ADC's as least not typically.

A jungler carries though ganking and snowballing lanes and themselves. They control the early game typically.

A Midlaner that is an assassin yet fails to assassinate a high value target has typically failed, wether they live or die. A high damage mid Mage can often carry a fight just fine after an ADC has died.

If your losing games where your top and mid were really fed then they probably messed up later on. Either by dieing too much with little gains or by not playing to your teams win conditions.

ºˉ GeMıNı6/22/2017, 10:13:33 PM5 votes

actually, thats not true. jungle top and mid can carry just as hard as adc can, if played correctly.

rtbf2216514126/23/2017, 5:30:47 AM4 votes

Attack damage carry.

Impact?

Why, I'd never would have guessed.

Thank you captain obvious.

Nymzo6/23/2017, 1:59:31 AM3 votes

I thought Junglers had too much impact?

Now it's ADC? What happened?

PhantomGG6/22/2017, 10:14:25 PM3 votes

Adcs have always been like this, believe it or not, it's actually worse right now from riot nerfing adcs, for the logic is like this.

Sinc adcs are so nerfed, it's no longer a brain dead role, meaning only good adc players should play adc, other wise bad adcs will get even harder stomped.

ModAcademy Kayn6/23/2017, 1:35:45 AM2 votes

DPS is always going to dictate the game when Burst can't deal with Tanks. It's the same in every game. DPS can't deal with that Pharah, you're going to lose. DPS can't do enough damage to kill the boss before he Raid wipes, you're going to lose.

You can argue that DPS stands for any Damage, but in our Scenario and context of our game, DPS is the ADC's, as they're the ones who can best deal with tanks, due to range and safety.

Dream High6/23/2017, 3:23:58 PM2 votes

Who would have thought buffing everything that adc's want would leave them as the overpowered role .

zarxus12346/23/2017, 5:49:11 PM2 votes

ADC's dont do anything. I don't understand how people are complaining about them. It goes assassins-bruisers-tanks-apc- adc - supports in power level right now.

Adc's are the least problematic role in all the games i'm playing.

Nipsahoy6/23/2017, 10:58:23 PM1 votes

Feels to me like top laners do actually. Play your champ that has to to land two skills to get a kill and get fed and then you can ult somebody and they basically die. Marksmen at least take a lot of farm and a number of kills before they become a legitimate threat early on in the game.