Whats the reasoning behind lux's E costing 30% more mana than most mage ults?

NovaMS·6/29/2016, 6:49:34 PM·2 votes·1,033 views

I'm poking around lol wiki and seeing everyones ult costs 100. Most regular skills cap out at 60-70 mana but Lux's max E costs 130 mana. The only mages I found that even got close to that were brand pillar of flame (320 base dmg .75 ratio) at 100 mana and viktor death ray (410 base dmg 1.1 ratio) at 110. Both these skills have high cost because their potential damage is large. Xerath also has higher type ratio spells and high mana costs but his passive is mana return.

Lux's E is just a standard ol .6 ratio AOE nuke with a slow. It makes no sense to me. Maxing at something like 70-80 is probably most in line with other champs. Even 100 mana cost would be a stretch. But 130? Why?

Edit: Lots of people telling me now good E is but I feel like a lot of what people saying isnt in proper perspective. It costs DOUBLE a regular ability and even 30% more than ultimates cost. Maybe it needs a longer CD if it needs to be gated but its hard to justify it being basically the highest mana cost ability in the game by a large margin.

15 Comments

EndlessSorcerer6/29/2016, 6:52:59 PM6 votes

Lux's E is just a standard ol .6 ratio AOE nuke with a slow.

Vision + Waveclear + Slow + Long Range + Long Duration (for zoning) + Applies Passive (for harass combo)

It has a lot of utility packed into it for being a simple ability.

Ralanr6/29/2016, 6:50:48 PM5 votes

So she gets punished for spamming it?

67chrome6/29/2016, 7:08:20 PM3 votes

Whats the reasoning behind lux's E costing 30% more mana than most mage ults?

Probably has to do with that skill being AMAZING.

As far as skills go that have a primary focus on dealing damage, Singularity is quite possibly the best skill in the game. 9 times out of 10, replacing a random QWE skill on any champion's kit with Singularity would improve that champion.

It's combo of great range and solid AoE offer a lot of safety and accuracy with using the skill, as well as great wave-control, joint CS+Harass combos, and power in sieges or defending against sieges.

The capacity to detonate it early gives it even more power and reliability, and the slowing field and vision offered still make using the skill worth it if you miss, as those are pretty forgiving rewards that bring a lot of vision control and zoning power.

Add it's respectably low CD into the mix, and the only real downside of Singularity is it's mana cost.

SoundChaosDebug6/29/2016, 7:03:13 PM2 votes

It's to counter her laugh

Kaioko6/29/2016, 7:05:50 PM1 votes

I main Lux and the reason for is is due to the fact that her laning phase can be extremely oppressive if not somewhat mana-gated. The fact is E isn't a hard spell to land on someone and combined with the auto attack passive buff and the thunderlord proc with just the one spell and auto, you end up doing a lot of damage very easily.

Purple Death6/29/2016, 7:07:32 PM1 votes

It has everything more then most ultimates, someone already mentioned all of the things. So I will just say that she has probably the best level 1 in the game because of it.

Fisherman Fízz6/29/2016, 7:45:50 PM1 votes

Same reason Fizz's E costs 130 mana, it's a powerful spell

Miss Luxanna6/29/2016, 8:08:20 PM1 votes

Being a Lux main, I think this ability is a "little" on the strong side. It sets up for a Q > Ult and it's an easy proc for her passive. And the fact it also can act as a position control, etc, rinse and repeat what others have said.

Ruin Lance6/29/2016, 8:10:53 PM1 votes

because for anyone who isn't Yasuo or doesn't have 900 movement speed (exaggeration) it has almost NO counterplay except flashing out of it or the lux just somehow missing it. seriously good luck dodging this if you don't have inherent mobility.

Catastrop6/29/2016, 8:42:32 PM1 votes

Have you seen it's cooldown?

The Bearded Bard6/29/2016, 8:43:39 PM1 votes

What's the point of Ori's ult scaling to 150 with levels?

Darth Sidiouss6/29/2016, 6:52:06 PM1 votes

Because her E is bullshit and very hard to dodge sometimes it provides zone control and It also gives vision around it too.

Moneymonster76/29/2016, 6:59:31 PM1 votes

Her E gets sent out with a pretty quick movement speed, only way to dodge a Lux E from a decent skillshot player is to flash it. If a Lux gets an E on you with you in the center, you're not escaping the damage without some awesome movement speed or a flash. The ability provides really nice damage in addition to applying her passive which could potentially result in even more damage if she can aa you, it provides vision, it slows any enemies hit by it, and it has a fairly short CD. Maxed out, it's possible to click E, then by the time it goes off, click E again.

Irelia Bot6/29/2016, 7:00:05 PM1 votes

to gate her power.