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LETS HELP SION

GoldenGuard·2/5/2015, 9:21:40 AM·2 votes·1,083 views

so i mained old AD sion, my favorite champ by far, and i was expekting the rework, anything would be ok if they just saved his old e and stats THE PROBLEM- SION LOST 700 BASE HEALTH AFTER THE REWORK< HIS W HEALT GAIN HAS NO INPAKT LIKE HIS OLD E HAD< It is JUST AN ILUSION< SION HAS LOVER BASE HEALTH THAN AHRI i mean rito please his spells: Passive is better then the old one but it is a spit in the face to old ad sion mains, you gain 100 lifesteal(like old sion) and do a lot of demage like old sion but you cant wait for the right oportyniti because you will die if you dont aa and you cant aa because of cc His Q- it is better a nice new spell. really nice feel using it, good work rito on that HIS W- its just his old w with a new pasive and now scales with %health more than ap, its nah HIS E- wtf is this, sion yells on a minion? minion bowling? this spell is new but defiitly not for sion, sions old e was a lot better, who doesnt miss old glowing chopah :( HIS ULT- no doubght the new one is better the old one was just to broken so all in all sion rework was a nerf- solution- keap his new look and q,passiev and r, give sion back his base health and stats before the rework, make his w give sion passive lifesteal up to 15%?, make his new e gein health like the old one and maybe pasivly enraging his axe to gain bonus ad and it could glow- just for the nostalgia dooooooo that

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1011001110002/5/2015, 10:25:44 AM3 votes

Honestly, if this new Sion had old Sion health stats, he'd be obnoxiously tanky. By Level 18, he'd be able to reach about 3000 hp from the health stacking passive without accounting for items or runes/masteries. Now add about an extra 1500-2000 hp from items, add resistances, give him a damage item for lulz, and you get a Sion that can probably 1 v 1 and 2 v 1 turrets while getting aggro'd.

Abyssphere2/5/2015, 11:42:23 AM2 votes

I think his base health can't go back to where it was without a nerf somewhere else but it should be higher. Farming 300 minions to comfortably surpass old Sion is cool, farming 300 minions just to catch up isn't.

Social Justice 12/5/2015, 2:55:34 PM2 votes

A few things

1: Sion having less health than other champs. This is because he has a shield that scales off of his maximum health that can be used at any time. It also helps that he's going to be building health items on top of his Soul Furnace passive.

2: Currently, Sion is "Competitive King" Tier power-wise. Roar of the Slayer helps this late-game hypertank win lane. Anything but respect for it will force you to back easily.

3: AD Sion was one of the worst things to happen in League of Legends. Pre-Rework Sion himself was the most disgusting thing design-wise to happen to a MOBA (or RTS in general). Only viable in elos where they would let you AFK farm for 30 minutes, but if that happened: Could not be dueled, could not be tanked, and could only be bursted down if there were no minions nearby. A splitpusher that required at least 3 people to answer him. Free teamfighing skills thanks to targeted stun and team-wide buffs. Essentially a "Godyr" that didn't need to build any defensive items. Boring to play, and also sapped all of the fun anybody else was having.

Talamare2/6/2015, 1:22:52 PM2 votes

Its a SMALL shield + 10% of his max health

So if Sion is at a massive 4000 HP, his Shield is only 530

Even Riven's shield is bigger than that Hell, Jarvan's Shield is 510!

Again, not dissing the shield. However am making it clear that him having the Shield should not compensate his abysmal natural max health.

Talamare2/5/2015, 10:16:05 AM2 votes

Sion needs to have about 300 farm to have EQUAL health other champions

It's only after 300 farm does his W actually take into effect! His base health needs to be seriously increased~!

Having a Shield and a way to increase it further is no excuse for it currently being so pathetic

As far as his other abilities go, Sion is more or less in a pretty good place In lane he is an absolutely MONSTER During the midgame he has incredible sticking power His Q is really strong to BAIT people into CCing you He has basically 100% uptime on his chain slows (Q and E)

After you fix his health I honestly do not think you need to buff the rest of his kit, since if you fix his health it might actually allow him to build a little bit more damage

BeatzBoyFTW2/5/2015, 11:31:37 AM1 votes

HIS E- wtf is this, sion yells on a minion? minion bowling? this spell is new but defiitly not for sion, sions old e was a lot better, who doesnt miss old glowing chopah :(

New Sion's E "kind of" resembles the old Sion's Q, which this time he uses his mouth & slows multiple people, unlike the old one who uses his eyes & stuns a single champ, and costs 100 mana. And the old Sion's E health building passive is placed into new Sion's W. Seems like you haven't read up his full description, and then made a QQ Sion thread about it.

Dreadlocks2/5/2015, 9:39:59 AM1 votes

Whats the point of giving sion shitty base health and then having an ability to make up for it? Sounds weird to me... IDK how to really word it, but i think u get my point.

Leti the Yeti2/5/2015, 9:28:22 AM1 votes

his lower base health is compensated by his W's passive

you get a slow from your E... lets not give him another slow on his W too

Lord Dusteon2/5/2015, 1:26:50 PM1 votes

First, Sion needs 423 bonus hp from his W passive to make up for the base hp loss. That's 212 minions/small monsters to begin with; but since each large minion, monster, or champion kill or assist gives 10 hp instead it makes each kill on those reduce the minion killing count by 5. Assuming you can successfully kill some cannon minions, you can pretty easily break even ~165 cs. In addition, since his shield now scales on 10% max hp his hp is even better (at base hp at 18 his shield 178 bonus tankiness; every point of health increases this by .1).

Second, his Q has up to a 180% AD ratio, his W deals 14% enemy's max hp + some base in an AoE, his E is a very long ranged slow + damage or an upclose armor shred, and his R lets him literally charge into anyone and disrupt almost every team. Him losing some base hp more then makes up for the entire rest of his kit being useful to everyone and cohesive.