Did Riot ever give a reason for removing Miss Fortunes grievous wounds?
I've tried looking but I cannot find anything. Does anyone know? Perhaps a red can respond?
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There's a popular theory that Riot's trying to phase Grievous Wounds out of the game.
Well, less of a theory and more just certain members of the old forums remembering every off comment thing Rioters said back there.
To answer your question about Miss Fortune: The team really wanted to remove a lot of hidden power from Miss Fortune. There was no decision making with her Grievous Wounds really since it was already tacked on to an Attack Speed bonus that you would activate in a fight anyway. Furthermore, killing someone through Grievous Wounds is an odd job for the ADC of the team when you consider who Grievous Wounds is supposed to counter in the first place.
To explain why Riot wants to phase out Grievous Wounds as a whole:
Here's what I remember being described about the state of Grievous Wounds way back in the old forums:
The biggest problem about Grievous Wounds is that it essentially boils down into incredibly binary scenarios. For example, Grievous Wounds items. What happens when the item is highly tuned stats per cost
? Everyone buys it, all healers now need to be overtuned to compensate, all this ends up with is ridiculously stupid healing potential
and the expectation that you're buying Morellonomicon anyway.
If, for example, Grievous Wounds are either completely removed or reserved for much more niche/impactful situations (
), then it's fair game imo. Otherwise, too easy access to Grievous Wounds means that, from a game balance standpoint, healers need a little extra to compensate. To rephrase, poor implementation of Grievous Wounds threatens the balance of the game (at least in regards to healers vs anything else).
I don't think Grievous Wounds is going to be completely removed, but I do expect to see a lot of today's implementations of Grievous Wounds either get flushed out or reworked. The concept weighs down on balance by making things binary - think of why so many people get annoyed at Yasuo - even if the concept itself isn't inherently broken. The removal of Grievous Wounds however can eventually lead to better normalization of Health Tanks (Dr. Mundo and Volibear's healing factors no longer have to be so extreme, for example) and way better power distribution to places where it actually matters, but you can't implement without risking making the healing champions OP.
Because it's easier to nerf her further into obscurity than to buff her into playability.
Well like executioners calling rito doesn't like prevented healing on ad champs for some reason connected to this tank meta i bet.
Still don't see why katarina of all champions has it....
My interpretation from a long time Miss Fortune main is, Grevious Wounds didn't really give her overall that much power, nor is the concept of Grevious Wounds something that Riot has said wanted to be necessary for the game since it has almost no real counterplay unless you have Soraka, and isn't really fun to use or be used.
Riot wanted to highlight Miss Fortune's early game and in trade for her Grevious Wounds, made all of her abilities overall stronger. In that process they also buffed her mid game which is already really strong and solid, and also gave her a small buff late game.
Ignore the people saying it was a nerf, they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, considering every ability including her ultimate and passive were buffed and her passive at that had 3 buffs to it in total let alone the rest of her kit. The new Miss Fortune isn't all that different, but she definitely is stronger.