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The Unaddressed Issue that makes ONE TRICK PONIES A BAD THING

Badgeblitz·3/6/2020, 12:53:07 AM·1 votes·2,649 views

You know who feeds, ints and dodges if they don't get that EXACT role they DIDN'T call, or end up outplayed in because they can't adapt? These special snowflakes. They're incapable of using several champions, and because the meta lets them get away with it SO OFTEN, they think they're good, and the rest of the team is toxic. Or, they call every other champion trash and flame anyone who picks them. Ever hear someone say that Draven sucks? I have. They were a noob, and that's my point about these people. They technically never got better at the game outside of their niche, and Riot turns a blind eye. Now, I'm not trying to flame any person in particular, or any of these people. That's what summoner 14 is for*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]* .

HOWEVER, for some reason, riot thinks it's okay to block people from playing ranked until level 30, BUT NOT MAKE THEM GET GOOD AT ALL OF THOSE CHAMPIONS FIRST?????????????[zombie-brand-clap] How does this make any sense? It can't be THAT hard if someone's actually taking the game seriously, which is what it is; a serious team-based game, where people can ruin a match by going afk once, but CAN'T CARRY SOLO when they're fed. It's so easy to mess up by dying in the wrong place at the wrong time, that it's saddening riot calls this a game, and not randomized Russian Roulette.item 3145 So if it's such a serious game, what's stopping riot from forcing people to wait until they MASTER 20 champions, or for that matter, why can't people ONLY use champions they have mastery with in ranked? You can't pretend like ranked isn't ruined by PEOPLE FIRST TIMING CHAMPIONS once every 10 matches. That's what BLIND MODE is for. This doesn't just apply to people who are one-tricks out of their element, but also players who first-time in any draft or ranked game. Am I being salty? No. I'm just being practical.

There is nothing that RIOT couldn't have done to fix their own game. It wasn't just the champions that were the problem, but so was the omnipresent lack of skills players have in using them. I've seen a Singed top lane REKT an IllaoiIllaoi and MordekaiserMordekaiser top lane for an ENTIRE MATCH. Imagine being on that team, and getting destroyed by someone who kills you by running away. That's how unhindered these kinds of players are in a SERIOUS match, where so many things can kill them. That is the LITERAL skill gap between one tricks who are out of their element, and people who master several champions.

So why do you guys think Riot lets so many people think they're good, when they're adaptability is a glass cannon in a tank meta.

Does riot not think it practical, or PROFESSIONAL to restrict people from first timing or otp'ing champions in ranked, or should I **git gud ** and act like this isn't what ruins ranked?

11 Comments

Metal Janna3/6/2020, 2:21:34 AM6 votes

Not everyone plays the game to reach Masters/Challenger. Some people just want to play their favorite champion. And most importantly, you have no right to dictate to them that they play the way you want, toward the goal you want them to.

LanceTheJungler3/6/2020, 3:50:23 AM2 votes

Thats why I'm a member of the One Trick Police and ban out all one tricks in clash :)

Kai Guy3/6/2020, 1:35:56 AM1 votes

Game is built around matchups and Synergy and folks think ignoring that will result in good gains? [sg-miss-fortune]

yea,,, being grossly over skilled you can OTP anything but if you neglect the basics when your stuck you stay stuck.

xHeimtechZX3/6/2020, 4:19:09 AM1 votes

I don't think there's a problem with OTP's, just the people you're talking about. So like the OTP's I watch are Riste and DragoonL0L (Dragoon isn't even an OTP anymore, he's diversifying his champion pool), they're both really nice and helpful. Riste talks to Riot about balance changes and he will definitely point out when Garen is overbuffed. The reason why ProGuides or just the community says to OTP to climb is because it helps players to limit their champion pool so you can focus more on micro and macro, game sense, etc. If Dragoon started mastering 10 champions instead of just one, he might not even be in challenger right now. Now that he has all that knowledge about the game, he can start learning champions correctly at a high level. Something about being able to OTP any champion (even a simple champion like Garen, overbuffed or not, and has a ton of bad matchups) and getting to challenger sorta shows that climbing really just depends on how much you understand the game and mastered the game. The players you're talking about are just toxic players that probably would still have a high ego regardless if they OTP or not. I would trust a challenger OTP's knowledge about matchups for that specific champion than someone who plays maybe three champions or more. The OTP plays that champion even if he's getting countered, which means he needs to master hard matchups. The person that plays three champions or more, even at a challenger level, might just switch to another champion instead of picking that champion in a hard matchup/comp. Learning from hard matchups is still a valuable lesson. Of course, I would still listen to the challenger player that plays three or more champions, but the challenger OTP's opinion I might weigh more importantly/accurately. I think OTP's needs to exist so that they can go through every type of matchup and make guides for the players that want to learn more in a shorter time.

ScrubLordinat0r3/6/2020, 10:05:56 AM1 votes

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You know who feeds, ints and dodges if they don't get that EXACT role they DIDN'T call, or end up outplayed in because they can't adapt? These special snowflakes. They're incapable of using several champions, and because the meta lets them get away with it SO OFTEN, they think they're good, and the rest of the team is toxic. Or, they call every other champion trash and flame anyone who picks them. Ever hear someone say that Draven sucks? I have. They were a noob, and that's my point about these people. They technically never got better at the game outside of their niche, and Riot turns a blind eye. Now, I'm not trying to flame any person in particular, or any of these people. That's what summoner 14 is for*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]* .

HOWEVER, for some reason, riot thinks it's okay to block people from playing ranked until level 30, BUT NOT MAKE THEM GET GOOD AT ALL OF THOSE CHAMPIONS FIRST?????????????[zombie-brand-clap] How does this make any sense? It can't be THAT hard if someone's actually taking the game seriously, which is what it is; a serious team-based game, where people can ruin a match by going afk once, but CAN'T CARRY SOLO when they're fed. It's so easy to mess up by dying in the wrong place at the wrong time, that it's saddening riot calls this a game, and not randomized Russian Roulette.item 3145 So if it's such a serious game, what's stopping riot from forcing people to wait until they MASTER 20 champions, or for that matter, why can't people ONLY use champions they have mastery with in ranked? You can't pretend like ranked isn't ruined by PEOPLE FIRST TIMING CHAMPIONS once every 10 matches. That's what BLIND MODE is for. This doesn't just apply to people who are one-tricks out of their element, but also players who first-time in any draft or ranked game. Am I being salty? No. I'm just being practical.

There is nothing that RIOT couldn't have done to fix their own game. It wasn't just the champions that were the problem, but so was the omnipresent lack of skills players have in using them. I've seen a Singed top lane REKT an IllaoiIllaoi and MordekaiserMordekaiser top lane for an ENTIRE MATCH. Imagine being on that team, and getting destroyed by someone who kills you by running away. That's how unhindered these kinds of players are in a SERIOUS match, where so many things can kill them. That is the LITERAL skill gap between one tricks who are out of their element, and people who master several champions.

So why do you guys think Riot lets so many people think they're good, when they're adaptability is a glass cannon in a tank meta.

Does riot not think it practical, or PROFESSIONAL to restrict people from first timing or otp'ing champions in ranked, or should I **git gud ** and act like this isn't what ruins ranked?

Most lcs players play like 3 or 4 champs and 1 role. The problem is the system based on "skill" measuring 1 persons top main vs 1 persons auto filled top banned pick. Its not 1 trick ponies that are bad, its winning>all that forces this. Certain champs win more, end of story. Winning is all that matters in ranked end of story. Winning is clearly then based on picks. So why pick NOT the best? Until riot gives a reason to pick a champion for fun, its never gonna be worth it. For fun players are FAR more likely to run it down on average than 1 tricks ON their 1 tricks, unless they are yasuos.

Zerenza3/6/2020, 3:30:32 AM1 votes

There's no reason to restrict a OTP, the fact of the matter is that OTP champions only work because the champion doesn't have a definitive counter that they can't adjust for. Lee Sin, the champion who takes away 40% of the playrate from the jungle(You will see a Lee Sin in about 40% of your games) doesn't have a single matchup that he can't win, his worst match up in the jungle only lower's his winrate by 5%. Lee Sin also has an extraordinarily high Skill Ceiling, or Outplay Potential, meaning learning Lee Sin's mechanics might take a while but he has a lot of options so you'll never find yourself thinking "I can't do anything.". Riven, the most common One Trick right next to Yasuo and Lee Sin is the same way, all three of them have extremely high Skill Ceilings, and don't have a single match up that they simply can't win.

This issue is this, the fact of the matter is that there is not a single match up in this game that you can't win, some are very unfun and hard to win, yes. But, every matchup is winnable and can be worked around, and while it's better one trick some champions over other's at the end of the day the only thing that stops a One Trick from climbing is Game Knowledge, once you master a champion the only thing you have to learn is Match Ups and overall Gameknowledge/Decision Making. The best one tricks like Box Box, Annie Bot and Arcsecond are challenger not because they're much better than everyone else it's because they have the Gameknowledge and Match Up knowledge to back it up.

Here's the question though, it's easier to learn the game with a small pool of champion or just one champion, so why is it that you aren't a one trick?

ZephyrDrake3/6/2020, 2:46:18 AM1 votes

And yet I'm willing to bet that most OTPs are better than you*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*