Which one of you eggs is responsible for this.

King I Rat·12/21/2018, 9:14:56 PM·4 votes·1,330 views

Neeko's ultimate has a 90 second cooldown, a radius of 600 (For reference it's roughly the same as Nunu's ult), it's base damage is 200/425/650 WITH A 130% AP SCALING that also gives her a shield with a base value, scaling AND additional shield the more targets it hits, slows all enemies in the area during the windup and then STUNS them for 1.25 seconds, ADDITIONALLY, if she is disguised YOU CAN'T SEE THE WINDUP.

I'm not sure how but they managed to make a spell more overloaded then Zoe's Spelltheif. I am baffled, I am stunned beyond words. Are you actually trying to tell me, that this made it past the PTR? Who allowed this. This ability is a fucking warcrime.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

16 Comments

Krynnˉ12/21/2018, 9:16:21 PM5 votes

She isn't that bad. Her kit has plenty of counterplay, she is almost completely skill shot reliant and a lot of her damage is easily avoidable, in addition to the fact that she has no mobility (no her W doesn't count as real mobility).

HEALTH FOUNTAIN12/21/2018, 9:19:07 PM3 votes

dodge cc, easy game.

get cc, you die.

Rester12/21/2018, 9:37:39 PM1 votes

Kassadin item 3157 item 3102 item 3040

Teémò12/21/2018, 10:18:43 PM1 votes

How do we get people to stop banning pyke and akali lets make a more annoying champ~ [zombie-brand-mindblown]

https://i.imgur.com/9YJJTVK.png

Time to play is it shaco? the shaco's clone, or Neeko! Like can we not have champions who's designs are to take advantage of players knowledge? I don't mind tabbing every 10 seconds to see if it's her or not, but if you have to play with a delay a fear of being slaughtered that the 20 % health jungler xin you seen is actually the max mejai neeko in disguise. Makes me miss the azir kalista days.

Bunnì12/22/2018, 1:09:48 AM1 votes

You can kill Neeko whilst she is ulting. She still takes damage and she is vulnerable as she has to stand in the middle of the enemy team. She doesn't get her shield until late in the ult and she is squishy. - Should be easy enough to kill right?

If that's not enough to counter her cc? Buy item 3140 item 3222 item 3157 item 3026

You can also see all of her abilities before they actually do damage. You can see her Q come at you before it hits the ground - dodge it. You can see her E come towards you before it hits you - dodge it.

Build magic resist items? item 3102 item 3156 item 3139 item 3194

She really isn't that strong, you just need to know how to play against her.

-Lush xx [sg-ahri-2]

Psyrix12/22/2018, 2:09:48 AM1 votes

Sooo basically. You have no idea how to play against her.... or rather u dont particularly care about learning to play against her. The stun duration is short in comparison to many other abilities, The ult requires she walk up to u and is extremely visible if she's not disguised, The shield only applies after the windup is complete, therefore only when she jumps and really isn't all that big, deal your damage to her whilst she's winding up, In a 1v1 this is pretty much always possible unless ur a total melee champ because her only other CC is a root (thereby meaning you can still attack while rooted)... The best way to keep track of whether or not the champ walking up to you is really Neeko in disguise: Warding and looking at ur minimap, failing this and she ends up walking to u without u knowing, u always assume it's a Neeko charging up her ult: therefore you run or, if ur able, pop her like a balloon. The slow isn't all that noticeable tbh... but if ur really finding all that massive, you can always buy boots of swiftness (reduces the impact of slows) or buy merc boots, which reduce the duration of CC as well as giving you MR. The alternative is buying items with spellshields or cleansing effects. Itemization is a key aspect of playing in league, sometimes you have to give up some damage for more survivability... so adapt. Either way, there are items with actives that grant movespeed as well as decent Ap/AD respectively, you could always build that to help you get out of her slowfield if ur really focused on keeping the damages.

If you've played Neeko, you'll know in most cases the ult is relatively difficult to reliably land, therefore it is kinda understandable it does pretty big damage.

In terms of spotting the real Neeko when she clones, pay attention to how the model moves, if it's a continuous line with no changes, it's most liekly gonna be the clone. (this is go to rule except when near corners, at that point it's best to just guess and have another teammate keep track of one. But yh, if the model wobbles in the duration that's most likely the real Neeko. Throw a skillshot at the model if ur able, they'll generally try to dodge it if it's the real Neeko.

The E (tangle barbs) has a condition to get the empowered root: it must pass through multiple units. Easiest counterplay? Avoid prolonged moments in you minion wave or spread out in team fights.... That actively prevents her from landing the empowered E, thereby preventing her from securing all three procs of the Q.

The only real change I'd ask of Riot is to add a clearer visual indicator of when Neeko has her empowered Auto attack ready (when not disguised)