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Evelynn players, let's talk about Full AP Eve

42196140_DEL·5/14/2016, 6:02:07 PM·2 votes·825 views

Hello, in another post Medler confirmed that Evelynn is very likely to be reworked in 2017 because her actual most successful playstyle (bruiser/tank) doesn't fit with her assassin thematic: when played as a bruiser/tank she is in the average of champions' performance whereas when played as an assassin she performs poorly.

I guess that many of you have tried playing her as an assassin, she has very low base damage, meaning that you need to be very fed or to wait for a long time in the game before being able to kill an enemy fast. I don't think that giving more burst to a champion stealthed all the game long would be healthy for the game, I believe that her actual damage are good. The real problem is that Evelynn dies faster than her target when she builds glasscanon and that's what I think should be improved on her:

Give her more effective defensive tools so she can stick to her target without being burst down faster than her target. Her actual shield scales on the number of enemies hit. That's IMO bad because Eve hates fights where all 5 enemies are gathered, she needs to kill an isolated target, to take advantage of a bad rotation, an enemy farming near a teamfight, of enemies missing in a fight, to wait for enemy frontline to engage etc... Fighting against 5 grouped enemies is way too dangerous even if she hits a 5 man ult. She could for example get damage reduction increased by her AP and her target's missing health. We could imagine her ult converting 0.05AP into bonus AR and MR, increased by 2,5% for every 1% missing health of the last enemy champion hit by her E instead of shielding her. On a 6 items glasscanon build it would give you ~90 AR and MR when your target's health is very low, which leaves you more time to finish it. 90 armor and MR is actually almost the same damage reduction than a 3 man ult. After your target's death, you'd have to run away because your bonus armor and MR would go back to 0.05AP until you hit another target with your E.

Now it's your turn to tell me what you think about this and your thoughts on why glasscanon Eve is bad and what should be improved.

5 Comments

Oleandervine5/14/2016, 8:08:03 PM2 votes

I think when they relaunch her, her ult will be scrapped - it's a tank's ult, not an assassin's ult. Another thing that I think will be scrapped is her permanent stealth on her passive. It's purely detrimental to her playstyle and sucks up most of the power in her kit; She cannot be allowed to burst people in the blink of an eye if she's never noticed until it's too late. I believe her best option would be either a stealth mechanic similar to Twitch's stealth, or potentially a stealth mechanic that activates from a certain number of hits by either auto attacks or spells.

OurLestrade5/14/2016, 6:11:30 PM1 votes

I could imagine the sort of assassin style that Ekko was meant to have working on her - the lowest straight up damage of an assassin, but high burst if she stages it right. That way she'd reward careful planning without being able to just appear out of nowhere and insta-gib you :O

42196140_DEL5/14/2016, 8:01:40 PM1 votes

bump!

Mirage Night5/14/2016, 8:12:56 PM1 votes

Here is the problem. Evelynn is thematically disjointed. Her visuals speaks blue demon bondage succubus chick. Her lore calls her out as a mysterious assassin. Her kit is an ap/ad bruiser tank assassin fighter thing. Overall she up for a complete thematic overhaul. Which given what we have, is basically like creating a new champion "Karma". Now there are elements from each the Riot will try to pull from to at least keep her somewhat the champion we sort of know now. The question is not what to change, but what small aspects should be kept.

PeanutButterFan5/15/2016, 2:05:19 AM1 votes

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