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"Learn to carry"

Nerdaucity··2 votes·1,033 views

I am in Bronze II. I've been hovering around Bronze II and III for about a month and a half now. Every time I mention a problem with my team, someone always says "Learn to carry". I don't understand what that means. What do people mean when they say that? Do they mean "Learn to 1v5 the enemy team, take objectives, and group solo!" ?? I don't get it. How do you carry after your top lane feeds Vladimir, loses tower and then runs into every 1v4, ults, dies, and repeats as many times as the death timer allows?
How do you carry when a team mate is so far behind that they're basically out of the game? How do you carry when everyone is fighting each other or AFKing or generally refusing to win? Someone explain this please. I'm trying not to be bitter here, but I need someone to explain this phrase to me.

EDIT: I've read through everything here and the most helpful things I've seen are:

  1. Focus on yourself. As frustrating as it is, I guess it is correct that the only thing I can really do is improve my play. Frustrating, but the truth hurts.
  2. You can't carry every game. I've been feeling like people are telling me to carry every game, but I've calmed down a bit since I first wrote this and,yeah, I can't carry every game. Losses are gonna happen. Gonna have to get over it.

22 Comments

Losing Patients4 votes

Stop blaming your teammates and focus on your own game.

Nerdaucity2 votes

Doesn't make any sense, sorry. I'm not saying I play a perfect game, but comments like this make it sound like I'm supposed to.

redniwediS2 votes

Why's that? He didn't say anything about how you should play. All he said is you shouldn't waste time worrying about how well your team members are playing, and should instead be focusing on yourself.

Everyone makes mistakes. You can't fix the mistakes of your allies, but you can fix your own. Focus only on what you did and how you can not make those mistakes in the future. The fewer mistakes you make the better you will do, and the better you do the more close games you can tip the balance on in your teams favor.

It's not about being perfect, it's about trying to be perfect. The difference is one is impossible, where as the other leads to constant self improvement.

Nerdaucity1 votes

I'm not trying to fix the mistakes of my allies. I'm just saying that it makes no sense that people expect me to be able to play well enough that the rest of my team's mistakes mean nothing. It's a team focused game, and saying "Worry about your own game" just sounds like a silly cop-out answer to me. So, once again, it make any sense to me at all.

redniwediS1 votes

All mistakes can lead to defeat. Just do your best to make sure it's not your problems that cause a loss.

Again, you're spending too much time worrying about your allies. It's not about your allies. Just look at how focused your posts here are on your team, rather than on you.

If you can't fix the mistakes of your allies why are you so focused on them? You're literally wasting your own time.

Nerdaucity1 votes

How am I supposed to win if my allies don't let me? I've been beat over the head with the whole "Focus on yourself" thing. It's not like I don't. I do. I realize my mistakes, I'm actively trying to improve. But it doesn't seem to matter if I don't have a team that plays well enough to win.

redniwediS1 votes

Look. Focusing on yourself is a two part thing. The first part is looking at how you can improve. The other part is NOT focusing on your team.

It's the second part you have a problem with. You can't fix their mistakes, and you can't win every game, so stop worrying about it. ONLY focus on what you can change.

That's the part you're missing. If you stop wasting time watching your team you can spend that time improving yourself. It's not about winning, it's about getting better.

If it was only about winning you might as well buy a diamond account and call it good. Do you want a high rank account, or do you want to be a high rank player? If your answer is the latter you know what to do.

Losing Patients1 votes

Like others have said, pretty much focus on how you are doing in any given match, and make sure you're always doing your best regardless of how well or horrible your teammates are doing. There's too many variables in every match to give you specific advice. There's no magic trick to being able to carry, it's just about doing better than everyone else. Instead of looking at a loss as "this guy did or didn't do this or that" look at it like "What could I have done that would have prevented something bad from happening?" or "What did I do that helped me do so well?"

Odds are you're never going to be paired with the same players in a match more than once in a while, especially if you solo, and the only thing you can control is how you react to any given situation.

Edit: and to expand a bit, if you focus on your teammates, more often than not it's going to create a vicious cycle where you only see negative things happening. If anything, if you find yourself looking at others mistakes, just think of it in the frame of "What could he have done to prevent that from happening?", and keep it to yourself, and use it to improve your own play.

Nerdaucity1 votes

I just played a match as Lucian. I went 14/5/5, and we lost. How much more carrying can I do when I have the most kills and almost the least amount of deaths in the game? I cant solo objectives if my team wont help me. I cant push alone if my team wont group. I cant defend a turret by myself. I can't think for everyone in this game.

Losing Patients1 votes

Carrying is not just about kills getting kills, it's about using the gold you get from kills to maintain an advantage and ultimately win the game. To win a game you need objectives, kills and deaths are irrelevant. What matters is using your lead to beat the enemy. It seems like you let games go on too long, when in practice you should be trying to end them once you know you can easily kill the other teams. If you really think you're the best one on the team and that you can carry, just start pinging like crazy and tell people to follow you without raging at them.

The not raging at them part is pretty important, because people will either ignore you or not trust you if you have an abrasive attitude towards them.

disregardable3 votes

They mean stop complaining about the team and focus on what you can be doing better. Whenever you describe a game as "Even though I made a few mistakes, my team...", you're doing it wrong.

Nerdaucity1 votes

So if I'm carrying the team and we still lose I should be thinking "How much better could I have played as ADC to prevent every other lane from playing horribly?"

disregardable2 votes

Very close! You should be thinking: ""How much better could I have played as ADC?"

Nerdaucity1 votes

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redniwediS1 votes

Learning to carry is simply learning how to win the game. It's figuring out what needs to be done and then making it happen. It's knowing when to go for objectives, when to team fight, and when to cut your losses.

But most importantly it's knowing when you can't carry. One team loses every single time a game is played, after all. You literally cannot win every game. Just accept the fact that you may lose any single game you play, even if you start off doing well, and when it happens it won't hit you very hard.

Valexfor1 votes

First: not all champ are good at all level of play: Thres is op in pro plya but he sucks under plat for example, while blitz is op in yoloq but is weak in competitive even thought they have pretty smiliar kits and playstiles. So if you want to climb you gotta play champs strong in your elo (I dont mean that you gotta play champ you don't like, just try to play the more viable ones in your current elo while still enjoying the game). Second: play carry champs, champions that can get kills by themselves, greedy champs with a lot of potential (still enjoy the game while doing so). Third play easy champs: easy means you just have to worry about less. Amumu is better than Sejuani: he's easier and has the same amount of tankyness and utility, in lower elo people just don't understand how to counter things, thye just go ham like idiots against everything, exactly what some champs want. Fourth: never think about what the others could do better or shouldn't have done, think about improving yourself and be greedy since in lower elos teamwork doesn't exist, so don't try to make it work, force it: If you're carrying wait for you 0/10 garen to engage 1 vs 5 like the idiot he is, and use him as a meat shield to destroy the enemy. They will problably get baited by his engage and wast all of theyr summoners and skills to try and kill him, giving you quite a good advantage if you play it smartly. Fifth: if ou'er ahead go somwhere else to try and snowball more both yourself and the team (but mostly yourself). People in low elo don't know how to deal with roaming, don't ward and don't look when they do ward, giving you a strong advantage if you play it smartly.

No flash no life1 votes

"Hit the gym"

KoggyStyle1 votes

its higher elos way of saying we are lacking in certain areas... i has minimap issues and dont keep track of qwer CDs/dmg/ratios, havent gotten to where i say flash (time its back up), among other things. hope this helped ya understand what they mean.

KoggyStyle1 votes

almost forgot im one of the stupids that expect a diffrent outcome after 2 deaths and im a lvl or 2 behind.... BIG DERP.

Rain Smurff1 votes

consistency. Keep winning your lane, eventually you won't get a complete dud of a midlaner or a top laner and win the game. Or play mid or jungle and roam, but I wud work on fundamentals like csing, trading, etc.

s LessThanThree1 votes

Learn to 1v5 the enemy team, take objectives, and group solo

actually describes what you do in bronze pretty well

literally just go 10-0 in lane against your shitter lane enemy and then you can outrotate and fuck every lane up.

Bronze has no concept of objectives so every dragon should be free and you can just duo with a nunu main who builds swiftness boots so he can run around enemy jungle and have the enemy chase them as 5 while you push down 5 towers and get their nexus while your teammates are farming wolves and golems

crippler381 votes

you could play someone who snowballs hard and oppresses other players like the holy trinity of FU

Fizz Teemo Shaco

fizz can help pop enemies safely because of the troll pole, teemo is a F U in particular to anyone playing a rageblade champ or an ad carry (i've been taking him support in normals and haven't been let down yet) and teemo's shrooms are great for objective securing, and shaco (my favorite) can delete people from invisibility late game if he gets the smallest lead and has some of the most unstoppable and painful ganks in the game (permaslow, does more damage if you run, can ignore all walls in the game, is invisible as he goes in, ultimate lets him take rift herald and dragon level 6 easy, and his boxes are good for objective secure and baits)

but yeah what I would say is learn how to play around your team and opponents (granted I play mainly support and jungle, both roles reliant on working with the team) and don't be afraid to just take take take. By looking at how the enemy is playing you can figure out how to make plays, for example

say you're jungle, see enemy jungler top? take dragon or bot tower

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