Where to start when wanting to improve?

62021319DEL1·8/23/2017, 4:14:05 PM·1 votes·617 views

Currently in Silver and cannot for the life of me get out of it. Usually end up getting teams that fed or make stupid decisions that end up costing us a objective or two. Not saying that it's always my team's fault because I sometimes end up with the shit end of the stick by either getting camped and shoved out of lane or playing poorly. So without looking at my games and match history where should I start when wanting to improve in general? At this point any advice would help.

Edit: Thank you all for your input and I appreciate all of the help you all have provided!

22 Comments

darkmatchwaldo8/23/2017, 6:40:24 PM2 votes
  1. /muteall is your best friend, nobody is going to communicate anything that can't be said with pings. it helps to avoid tilting or getting into stupid arguments with your team.

  2. my games improved by a TON when i learned how to manipulate waves. knowing when/how to freeze or push can easily win you the lane. if you can leave lane 50+cs over your enemy, you basically win the game. you can force teamfights that are essentially 4v5 because the enemy laner has no gold.

  3. the biggest thing is just finding a champion that you are confident in. confident enough that you aren't even worried when the enemy picks a traditional counter. for me that champion is Katarina. i can play her comfortably into Kassadin Fizz Diana etc. will i WIN against Kayle? no probably not....but i won't feed my lane and i'll stay somewhat relevant in the game by roaming.

  4. recognize when you are at a disadvantage and do everything possible to make yourself easy to carry. EX: if you get set behind early as JarvanIV but you have a Jinx....just build item 1409 and go tank instead of damage.

  5. playing a champion who can snowball a lead is really important for carrying yourself out of low elo. obviously, knowing exactly HOW to snowball a lead is just as important. it's a little complicated to explain via typing, but there are plenty of youtube channels out there who can show you by example.

Makior728/23/2017, 4:50:12 PM2 votes

fundamentals mostly. The same things that will help you get out of bronze, will help you out of silver as well (silver = slightly better bronze)

  1. if you main top/mid/adc do CS drills. Create a custom game, and practice csing in your lane. Aim for perfect CS by 10 minutes. (I think its 108 in mid lane and 96 in top/bot not sure but I know those are close numbers)

  2. Realize that kills aren't everything. 20 cs =/= 1 kill

  3. Buy control wards everytime yours gets destroyed, (for some people, just BUY a control ward, many people do not)

  4. Learn how to read an enemy lane. Was your lane opponent playing passive and now they are full agro? jungler is near by 100%

Dragfin8/23/2017, 4:22:46 PM2 votes

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Currently in Silver and cannot for the life of me get out of it. Usually end up getting teams that fed or make stupid decisions that end up costing us a objective or two. Not saying that it's always my team's fault because I sometimes end up with the shit end of the stick by either getting camped and shoved out of lane or playing poorly. So without looking at my games and match history where should I start when wanting to improve in general? At this point any advice would help.

From the time a person is level 1. A useful person would try and improve at anything they do from the moment they start doing it and if they realize that it might not be in their wheelhouse then they would move on to something else and give that a go. If someone chooses to do something I would like to think that they would put forth their best each and every time. But not everyone can or will do that for whatever reason.

I will never understand why a person would approach anything any other way.

Too much information out there to help anyone willing.

But you can bet the excuses will come flying soon. Don't kid yourself because that is all they are.

Mazariamonti8/23/2017, 5:54:34 PM1 votes

Improve in general - --practice farming, this is critical and will make up for small mistakes elsewhere. If you give up a stupid kill early but you're better at farming and back times you may find yourself ahead on gold despite being behind on kills. This can be a life saver.

-figure out where you belong as far as what champions you should be using and pick accordingly, don't swap between 4-5 different roles when you're really only good with one. Some people have a big problem with this.

-Don't be afraid, test your limits. You're not playing in the LCS for money, you're trying to get out of silver. You suck at this game. I suck. Basically everyone on the boards sucks in comparison to people that are actually good. So if you think you can get that kill that's slightly risky, go for it. You might die, but you might not. Testing your limits shows you what can and can not be done on your main champions and in your preferred roles. This will cost you a game here or there, but in the long run will improve your play immensely when making that sick lee sin kick that most people at your level wouldn't dare is just a natural play for you.

-Attitude - you would be absolutely amazed how much better your team will play when you keep a level head, and are vocal about it. Don't blame people, even when it's their fault. Don't make snide comments that aren't necessary. In fact you'll get pretty far in silver if you just shut up and play your game.

HenzoAF8/23/2017, 6:26:43 PM1 votes

S5 I was Bronze 5, I'm curretly in Gold, the main reason I think I'm better than before is because I die less. making me ahead and games easier to carry. Just don't over extend and be alert to ganks and you will be fine.

BobaFlautist8/23/2017, 6:32:22 PM1 votes

I've been watching a fair bit of the YouTube channel Solorenektononly, mostly for the entertainment value, but I've ended up learning a ton about wave management and how to bait ganks/protect yourself from ganks.

Nobody's perfect, so of course he sometimes gets camped and gets frustrated, but he's pretty good about owning up to being too far forward or too aggressive when he dies, and it's helped me get a good sense of what a wave is likely to do, and how to push an early advantage into complete lane dominance and putting pressure on the map.

He's a toplaner, so obviously if you play mid or bot some of the specifics will vary, but learning about wave dynamics and how much minion flow influences pressure on the map has completely changed how I view the game.

That being said, I'm still silver because my mechanics are still shit.

Darkdemon6538/23/2017, 6:36:35 PM1 votes

The best thing you can do for yourself is record your games and watch them. As you watch yourself play, reassess what you are doing vs what you should be doing. If you make a mistake, figure out what would have prevented that mistake.

If you post those videos here, other people can give you specific advice.

thefance8/23/2017, 10:38:09 PM1 votes

Bio: I main Viktor and Brand. I'm currently Gold 3 and I like to theorycraft.

  • leaguecraft 101. It's a Youtube series. And it will change your life. The guide isn't 100% comprehensive. But nothing else comes even close to explaining the fundamentals of the game as well as this. It's handsdown the best resource. Entire series takes about an hour or two.

  • Tight Aggression. Google it. It's considered the optimal strategy in the gambling community. tl'dr is too complex to explain here. And I don't want to tie this to any particular link. The point is to learn how to invest time and resources wisely.

  • Dash-Dancing. It's a term from SuperSmash Bros (the same community that coined the term Wombo Combo). It means fidgeting back and forth rapidly. It's better than standing still or pacing in circles because it's harder for your opponent to react to your movements. It's a mindgame. Kiting and orbwalking are important too, but I bet you've heard of these.

  • Customize your interface. E.g. Unlock your camera. Learn to use the [A] key and [S] key to last hit more effectively. Switch from Attack-Command to Attackmove-Command. Use your function keys to see what other lanes are doing. Use smartcasting. "But Dopa doesn't smartcast!" idgaf and Dopa's a scrub.

  • CS is king. Learn how to last hit effectively. You don't have to get every cs if it means you'll lose half your HP. But you should get all the cs that your enemy laner lets you. E.g. against Pantheon, you must give up about half the cs. Because otherwise he'll murder you every 3 minutes. You just have to be patient and wait for it to crash into your tower. In the meantime, at least get the exp. Learn what exp range is in the practice tool. Exp is literally the most important thing in the game (except towers) and everyone underestimates it.

  • Minion waves > chasing kills (unless an objective is at stake). If you get a killing spree but die once, the enemy will rebound off your death due to "rubberband" experience. This is why focusing on cs is better. Each time a big minion wave crashes into an allied tower, your team wastes half a kill's worth of gold and exp. You will regret not eating a free lunch, yet have no idea how you lost when your nexus explodes.

  • Cut your losses. If you must give up a tower or die trying, just step back. If you can't contest drag without dying, just walk away. If you teamfight and the situation goes south, retreat immediately. Sometimes your bonobos your teammates will bait you into bad fights. If you follow them you deserve to stay in Silver. If you ignore them you stand a better chance of winning. It's tough. But the alternative is often worse. It takes discipline to ignore your teammates.

  • Check your opponent's level. If theirs is higher than yours, you will lose the duel. This is a better indicator than items. A 2 level lead is a big deal. A 3 level lead is enormous. If you do get a level lead, protect it. See my comment about "rubberbanding".

  • Every time you cs, check the minimap. It's like a drinking game. Force yourself until it becomes habitual.

  • Fight around power spikes. In starcraft these are called Timing Attacks. E.g. I main Viktor and his lanephase is trash. I don't roam, I don't duel, I don't look my laner in the eye until I have Perfect Hexcore and Lichbane. Once I do, I go ham. If the enemy wants to donate a kill, sure I'll take it. But I'm not gonna force any big plays until I have my core items or certain abilities.

  • Formulate a gameplan. E.g. "I'm worthless without Lichbane; I should back up when Nocturne hits level 6; ward drag area 30 s before it spawns; buy Banshee's Veil to counter Annie and Malphite; push the wave and immediately recall when I can afford Hexcore mk1; don't look Pantheon in the eyes; ward before Blitzcrank invade; be ready to Chaos Storm a teammate when Katarina blows her load; save Gravity Field for Darius; etc." You should be thinking about this during champ select.

  • Shove the lane for level 2 ASAP. So you can go ham at level 2 while the enemy is still level 1. This is huge because for a brief window of time, you'll have double the base stats and double the abilities. The moment you get level 2, just run at them at trade. If you're botlane, make sure your partner is on the same page. Botlane needs 9 cs, mid and top need 7 cs. If the enemy will reach level 2 before you do, you need to sit under tower and wait patiently for the enemy to escort the wave so you can hit level 2 also. In the meantime, don't even look them in the eyes. The Level 2 Cheese is the 2nd most broken mechanic in the game because it alone decides the fate of the first 10 minutes of the lane, and Riot will never fix it. (NOTE: midlane is an exception. Midlaners want to freeze, rather than shove. Because it's a short lane which can be ganked from 6 different angles.)

  • Trade around cooldowns. Including autoattack cooldowns. Trading "just because" is 100% bronze. Leaguecraft 101 covers this pretty well. Also, learn how to deny cs. Denying the enemy laner cs is the difference between merely winning your lane, and making them Rage Quit. Kills are importantly only in the respect that you can deny them cs and hit the tower.

  • Beware minion aggro. Autoattacking an enemy champion will draw minion aggro, but spells won't. This is important for ADC's and toplaners. Minion autoattacks collectively hurt more than champions for the first ~20 minutes. I recently had a ranked game where I was Nasus vs Irelia. She BladeSurged onto me and tried to fight me when we were both level 2, which drew aggro from all 5 or 6 of my allied minions. She lost about 200 HP, while I only lost 100 even though Siphoning Strike was on cooldown. She continued to trade like this and I utterly destroyed her because of it.

  • Anticipate events. Virtuosity is a function of anticipation. You need to constantly run simulations to predict how the teamfight will play out, track where the jungler likely is, prepare to flash if Ahri charms, pull your midlane wave Westward since the enemy jungler is East, track which lane leashed the jungler, etc. Neace recently made a similar video about "mental APM". If you just play on autopilot, you're being L A Z Y.

  • Manipulate minion waves. Freezing is your best friend. There are exceptions to this depending on the matchup and the context. But Freezing should be the default. SoloRenektonOnly won't shut up about this, and for good reason. Also, learn how to slowpush. This means you kill the casters but leave the melees alive. About 2 minutes later, a huge wave will build up and pressure the enemy side tower if left alone. Do this botlane to setup Baron, or toplane to setup Drag.

  • Don't be greedy. Watch death timers and learn to quit a siege so you can recall unmolested. If you can, always shove the wave under tower before you recall. Don't stay if you have 100 HP and 50 mana. "But muh team needs me!" Needs you to feed? Needs you to waste time being oom? So much nope. Get into a habit of resetting the lanes after every fight or objective. Killed Drag? Reset. Killed a tower? Reset. Aced a teamfight? Take an objective and reset. Wash, rinse, repeat.

  • Memorize item costs. Otherwise you'll recall and realize you only need 100 gold for a BestFriend Sword and hate yourself for not staying for another wave. (Or at least check the shop. I've keybound the shop button from [P] to [X] for convenience.)

  • Each time you die, you made a mistake. There are exceptions where dying was a net positive. But due to Dunning-Kruger, you will not know how to properly distinguish these situations. Therefore, always assume you made mistake. There's a 99% chance you screwed up, even if you don't know why. Replays can be helpful in this regard.

  • Pressure as a team. If your splitpusher recalls, you need to back up. If your split pusher is pressuring a tower, you need to pressure another lane.

  • Drop everything and go watch Leaguecraft 101. Right now.

ReySolomon8/24/2017, 7:46:28 PM1 votes

I started playing league this season around January from bronze 3 to gold 1 i'm still climbing but this is what I do all the time..

Don't tilt your jungler from the bad gank.

Play around 3-4 champions only.

Always be positive even though your j4 is 0-10.

If you see your teammate is starting to die everytime he gets to lane check his build and tell that person to build this and that (that's if you understand builds)

STOP BLAMING YOUR TEAMATES, ever since I stopped blaming my teammates I've been climbing so fast and getting better at the same time.

La Belle Sauvage8/23/2017, 4:24:24 PM1 votes

Take it from an Analyst in real life, you need the people who will help to get all the available data so they can give proper advice. Otherwise, you'll get very stale generalities.

Like this:

  1. Watch replays
  2. Read guides
  3. Get coaching.

Whereas looking at your champ win rate I'd wonder this:

Why aren't you spamming Nautulis? After 154 games you are winning 60%.

I also see you play a large pool if champs, pick fewer.

FDS Desperado8/23/2017, 4:26:53 PM1 votes

First Step: Ignore people like that Dragfin. You're going to run into a LOT of dicks in Solo Q. Just don't get upset, keep a level head, and relax. Honestly the best all-encompassing advice I can give for climbing.