I honestly would rather Daruis be gutted over Sett, he is the more cancer of top lane

ValiantKiller·2/28/2020, 12:55:46 PM·1 votes·4,562 views

At this point of playing this game, i'm really sick of my core of that cancer ugly shitty looking champion called Darius . Any noob can pick him up and run over everyone without any true counter beside banned him.

Atleast Sett require some brain with his ult landing and his W landing while you can play around him cause he truely Immobile champion whileDarius can just cover his weakens by taking Ghost and run you over without any counter to that shit.

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NickColaTesla 2/28/2020, 1:27:48 PM9 votes

As a Darius main, Darius is a strong pick right now. However, he's nowhere near as overpowered as people are claiming at the moment. If you respect his powerspikes and play around when he's the biggest threat to your team, I can assure you that a losing matchup to him will turn even or maybe possibly leaning in your favor depending on your experience.

Darius is a champion who's performance in lane will dictate how well he performs in a teamfight. This is true with a lot of champions, but especially true for Darius. It is important to know that unless Darius completely feeds in lane, he will always have presence in a team fight. Just because you killed him once or twice in lane doesn't mean you prevent his mid game powerspike. Darius is at his most powerful when no one is at full build and has the items to burst you down, meaning that taking extended encounters with him and allowing him to activate his passive will end up with him winning teamfights.

In the laning phase, champions such as Yorick, Jax, Ryze, Fiora, and Sett are all viable counters against him. Without his E, Darius can be kited extremely easy. If he uses his Q after you're slowed, make sure you get hit by the handle. Getting hit by the handle is worth the extra AA you might take from being closer to him as he WON'T be able to heal from it, and an AA does considerably less damage. Darius will get a big AD boost if he gets 5 bleed stacks on you, also activating his passive causing those 5 bleed stacks to apply to all other champions. This means that taking longer trades with him when you can't kill him with a single all-in will result in dying and losing the lane. The trick is to use SHORT trades. Do your damage, don't get hit by his skillshots, and get out. The person who gets the advantage first will most definitely snowball with it, which means you must not make mistakes in this lane. He will zone you from farm early and that's fine. It's not supposed to be an easy lane. You will both have your advantages and disadvantages. DON'T TRY TO CHALLENGE HIM LEVEL 3. HE HAS POSSIBLY THE STRONGEST ALL IN THE GAME, but after a couple of well done trades, things will turn the other way around and you'll get to manage the lane just fine. Whenever you need to step up to farm CS, you need to always ask yourself, "What does Darius have item wise and ability wise? Is he capable of chunking me out?" If Darius is using his W to farm, realize that this is a MAJOR component to him being able to reach 5 stacks on you. If he's using W to farm, immediately follow up with a trade as without his W, he really does not have any method of slowing you to proc his Q skillshot. Just one ability of his costs him 2 Hemorrhage stacks and the potential heal from his Q. This is an absolutely MASSIVE advantage when trading.

And for the love of god... If the Darius is competent, DO NOT ask for ganks post level 6. If your team has been oblivious to getting you a lead on lane up until this point, know that time has passed. Darius is most gankeable the first 6 levels. If you try ganking him afterwards, he will turn the fight around, apply max Hemorrhage to BOTH of you, and escape with 2 kills.

And unless you're a Tryndamere with full fury, NEVER just stand in his face and trade AA to AA. You Will LOSE. If you approach a good Darius and just trade AAs, he's going to:

AA - W - AA - E - AA - Q. You'll reach 5 stacks of Hemorrhage before you can even react. You NEED to KITE. KITE. KITE. If the Darius is bad, you can take some PTA Trundle Cheese and kill him if you both try trading AA to AA before he gets his passive up. This is a low elo cheesy way of killing him if he doesn't know how to kite properly

Again, Darius spikes HARD mid game when no one has the damage to burst him down. Even if he isn't fed. And quite frankly, this is how a champion should behave. You shouldn't need to be fed to have your presence heard as a threat in that game.

If all else fails, look to stall the game out as long as possible. Darius has a strong early phase, immensely powerful mid game, but a terribly weak late game.

But as long as he's the main priority in mid game team fights, he shouldn't be able to get his passive off easily. If you find yourself getting low on health, just back off out of his range. If you see yourself racking up Hemorrhage stacks, allow them to end before rejoining the team fight. CC works wonders against him. Even if he builds Sterak's, the tenacity he's given from that isn't enough to sustain chained CC. Darius HATES CC, as it prevents his rampage across the enemy team. Play safe the first few levels of the laning phase, make smart trades, and RESPECT his powerspikes as you would a Renekton. I guarantee you will see your performance against him rise.

DiveAlive2/28/2020, 1:14:50 PM8 votes

100% agree.

even tho sett has more range, speed, utility, skirmish and wombo potential, I still fear seeing darius in champ select more than sett, and im support main...

my personal nerf would be to the width of his axe blade compared to handle being absurdly larger and way less counterable than old Darius Q, practically impossible on large champions, especially ones who have size scaling/elixir/lulu ult etc..

went vs a darius that built righteous glory and it was disgusting

2gudaiya2/28/2020, 1:23:52 PM5 votes

i still ban darius. i will take whatever the matchup is into sett, be it a counter, skillmatchup, stomp lane, whatever. it's not darius, so it's healthy.

The Flashless2/28/2020, 5:00:46 PM4 votes

Darius is easier to beat than Sett.

Starcraft243ver2/28/2020, 1:33:14 PM4 votes

I do not have any problem with darius. Sett is absurd.

xHeimtechZX2/28/2020, 3:06:25 PM3 votes

Man I wish I faced more Darius players. Just send them my way. I have a high win rate against Darius apparently. Being on the other side is important too when learning matchups and learning new playstyles.

Knyron2/28/2020, 9:43:53 PM3 votes

As much as I don't like Darius I hate Vayne top way more

Power Cosmic2/28/2020, 9:42:47 PM2 votes

gut Aatrox he has been pick or ban forever

Troll Slaiyer2/28/2020, 5:19:25 PM2 votes

sett u just run circles around him and make him dizzy. darius u need to not be in his line of sight. u literally dont get to play the game against darius. its boring having to hug tower all lane. its so much easier doing short skirmishes with sett . you are darius' little play thing.

5050BS2/29/2020, 10:50:30 PM1 votes

Has been for years

iBuild2/29/2020, 11:14:14 PM1 votes

I agree. Seth does have counters. With Darius, what champ do you play against him without utterly screwing your team comp.

Toxic Teeto2/28/2020, 3:53:06 PM1 votes

Darius - The Hitbox of Noxus

SirHydro2/28/2020, 4:45:34 PM1 votes

Darius is strong with Ghost. Too bad Sett players can use Ghost too.....

Oh.....

LanceTheJungler2/28/2020, 6:35:11 PM1 votes

Juggernaut abusers out here really thinking darius is a balanced champion. Don't mind me casually gaining 30-230 free AD just for rightclicking instantly winning me every all in. How is anyone expected to beat him 1v1 when he gets 1050-8050 free fucking gold.

Oh he's designed by certainlyT huh makes sense.

Iukiboy2/28/2020, 8:06:40 PM1 votes

Remember S7, he was always popular pick and I enjoyed playing against him cause I found a formula that worked and was truly enjoyable watch Darius player playing behind.

But he had no conqueror and 17 other oppressive runes, he was buffed like 7 times because he is community's favorite toplane champ with highest pickrate and above average banrate toplaner for so long, so riot couldn't afford his nonexistance in S tier every patch like every other popular champion they are all broken in every elo Yasuo Zed Thresh LeeSin Vayne, every assassin (except Akali) etc...

Also Darius was never pick or ban in competitive games so I guess we won't get any nerfs, I am sick of laning against him whenever he is open.

Yenn2/28/2020, 8:18:34 PM1 votes

The issue is really his synergy with Ghost.

Playing against Darius in Diamond+ is cancer, even as a ranged champion. If he ever manages to freeze the wave, you may as well just leave the game; if you even attempt to break it, he'll run you down with Ghost. This isn't okay for a champion whose weakness is supposed to be kiting.

ZroSlash2/28/2020, 9:47:31 PM1 votes

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At this point of playing this game, i'm really sick of my core of that cancer ugly shitty looking champion called Darius . Any noob can pick him up and run over everyone without any true counter beside banned him.

Atleast Sett require some brain with his ult landing and his W landing while you can play around him cause he truely Immobile champion whileDarius can just cover his weakens by taking Ghost and run you over without any counter to that shit.

I have to disagree with you on this. Sure they are both annoying champions and hurt your mental but i would have to say a noticeable difference is that with Darius there are actual champs that counter him like for instance skill wise matchups would be Riven Fiora Trynd Jax Aatrox Garen and more that i cant remember right now but with Sett Literally nobody has been able to actually fully counterpick him and you may be thinking but uh what about singed? ok sure singed can just wait to flip him before he uses w BUT sett could outplay it with auto attack cancel q for free 4 hits in 2 seconds if singed starts getting scared and runs E him and w straight after and if he still flips you and you are scared of him flipping you before you w and you legit just flash w and even then sett doesnt need to w singed to beat him and its like that for every single champ just cause he has Burst damage AND INSANE sustain witch is fine cause you know he is a bruiser or Juggernaut but i personally think the only way Sett can be balanced fairly is removing or reducing sustain on him cause he does need his damage otherwise champs like Riven can just outrade him in flat out auto attack battles and with lowered sustain he would actually have counters. I do agree that darius does need nerfs but i disagree that he is worse than sett

Leon41672/29/2020, 1:30:02 AM1 votes

Aatrox Fiora Garen Gnar Jax Jayce Kayle Nasus Ornn Vladimir Tryndamere Lucian

VoraciousX2/29/2020, 1:33:37 AM1 votes

The biggest nerf I think Sett needs is his speed boost. That shit makes staying away from him super difficult even in a ranged lane.