The game now officially has too much CC

Acheron16·7/15/2017, 6:44:36 PM·76 votes·4,616 views

Before, in the far times of Seasons 1, 2, 3 we had stuns, sure. But now almost EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CHAMPION MADE has CC in it's kit. And not just any CC, knock ups/displacement, which are irreducible by Tenacity.

Old champions were valued when they had knock-ups because it was so rare and valuable, especially useful in supports. Nowadays pretty much any champion made has knock-ups in their kit, both reducing their value in older champions (look at Malphite, pretty much reduced into nothingness because his R is almost as bland as a basic ability) and honestly wiping out the value of Tenacity from the face of the game.

And it doesn't help that patches back they even REDUCED the value of that tenacity.

This is pretty much the sole reason why champions like Zac, Maokai and even Sejuani are so damn obnoxious: they not only have a bajillion stuns in their kit, % damage but they also have easy access to knock-ups as well.

Sreiously Riot, fix your damn ways and stop adding knock-ups to every champion you make. At this rate, I expect nothing less than having a new champion with %HP as true damage anytime soon.

EDIT: Since many are asking how else we can fight mobility:

  1. Stuns still work as intended, they are just reducible for tankier champions who make the choice to buy Merc Treads
  2. The "Grounding" effect of Cassiopeia's W (and now Singed's W) still exists, Riot could easily apply the Grounding effect in more AoE "pool" abilities, fighting mobility without punishing (or breaking with buffs) champions with no mobility.

At this point Knock-ups/displacements are the True Damage of CC, or rather even worse since they are literally impossible to itemize against and Riot have been too liberal with it in recent champions.

120 Comments

Eedat7/15/2017, 7:44:55 PM20 votes

Fun fact: Knockups are actually part of a larger group of CC called Displacements. Things like Gragas Ult, Lee kick, Alistair headbutt, Thresh Flay, Voli flip, Singed fling, etc as well as many others plus all knockups are all part of this same category. That's also the reason Yasuo can ult off these abilities even though they aren't technically knockups.

The entire group of Displacements, not just Knockups, is completely unaffected by Tenacity

Acheron167/15/2017, 6:52:07 PM9 votes

Usual reminder for you lazy pricks to comment before down-voting-

DunkinNoobs7/15/2017, 8:55:13 PM7 votes

Knockups are just displacements that don't move your character and displacements being reduced by tenacity would likely ruin the feel of those abilities. In exchange for being immune to tenacity and cleanse, knockups generally have higher costs (are very often ults), lower reliability, lower damage, etc. You'll never see something like Liss ult made as a knockup, for example. Immediate, ranged, targeted hard CC will never be seen in knockup form.

FantasySniper7/16/2017, 4:35:16 AM3 votes

Gragas' flash knock-back stun body slam.

InfinitexMortal7/15/2017, 7:11:48 PM3 votes

Yasuos be like [zombie-nunu-hearts]

Naching7/16/2017, 10:48:12 PM3 votes

There is more mobility...im tired of this...

Cant Riot do something new please? Some new mechanic dont being jumps, wall walking, spinning Urgot, etc...

Where are the new real abilities on a champ? Not mixed stuff.

Sir Fuzzi7/16/2017, 8:22:05 AM2 votes

Knockups don't get affected by Tenacity. That's part of the problem; you can't itemize against it.

Incidentally, %HP is what I'd call more offensive; tons of champions scale with you now, so when they're ahead, it fucking blows.

But that's League's biggest weakness to me; being behind feels so much less like a game and so much more like a humongous chore. And everyone wonders why high win rate and safe or well-rounded kits make popular picks. Obviously losing will never be fun, but League really drives it home.

That said, I'm pretty casual for League these days. I don't play much, I'm waiting to see what S8 is like... and I'm dying to see which boring-ass choice they make for Victorious.

Dextix LT7/16/2017, 10:26:37 PM2 votes

Alright, answer me this then, how else can we fight mobility?

Linna Excel7/18/2017, 12:35:01 AM2 votes

The game probably needs more CC because the mobility creep is real.

Devilreaper XIII7/15/2017, 9:29:01 PM1 votes

most knock ups are either skill shots, or you'd have to get in close and risk. so you can dodge or outrun it, or still activate abilities while being knocked up.

some champions have cc and are tanky AND do damage, the real issue is the damage that follows.

MuffledGarbage7/16/2017, 11:31:13 AM1 votes

summoner 1 ??

Silverjust7/15/2017, 11:36:32 PM1 votes

A lot of knock-ups should be replaced by a shorter knock-up and a stun, so it can still interrupt a dash but be effected by tenacity