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Your Current Ban and Why

Woodakoodashooda·2/19/2020, 9:12:55 AM·1 votes·6,043 views

Every once in a while I post a discussion like this in which I ask the few and far in between forum goers who give enough of a crap to share their thoughts on what their current ban is and why.

I recently changed my mind on what I want banned from my matches as I created a custom item set to account for various situations.

I am currently permanently banning Mordekaiser from all my games unless someone on my team hovers him.

This guy has two game warping functions to him that forces players to delay their core builds just to counter him.

Players have to work around his healing with grievous wounds and then they have to build either QSS or, at the very lest, Zhonya's to counter his ultimate.

The fact that so much gold needs tossed away by entire teams just to deal with coupled with the fact most player do not even bother considering building the things that might save them from him makes worthy of a permanent ban in my book if I ever bothered writing a book to completion.

But that's just me. What is your current ban and why?

59 Comments

AutofillisJunk2/19/2020, 9:29:24 AM7 votes

Sett Sett Sett Sett Sett Sett Sett Sett

Busted champion, overloaded kit, impossible to lane against, wins teamfights by grabbing front line, slamming them into their backline and pressing W while their tean swarms in the chaos.

Absolute failure of a champion and will forever be permad by me whenever I play top.

When I play JG I ban Lee because he's almost as overloaded

Lazypeon1002/19/2020, 9:24:09 AM4 votes

I always just ban Darius. I play a lot of Urgot, and I find that my match up against mord can be fairly even so he isn't a huge concern for me. Not to say I disagree with your reasons, as he is a solid ban.

I ban Darius personally since Darius can easily punish my potential to fight back against him in lane as urgot. My range is too short to effectively poke him without possible retaliation, and if I try to go in with E and W he can land the heal from his Q rather easily.

I'm pretty good about not feeding him, though I often find that even if I do well in lane, he's one of those champions that can seemingly come back out of no where.

I totally understand that there's probably more I could do in the match up, but personally I just don't find it fun. Ironically, I seem to have an easier time against Fiora or Jax who have kits that can definitely punish urgot.

So Darius is my goto ban right now.

vgamedude2/19/2020, 11:30:17 AM3 votes

Usually just Vayne since I can't just ban every marksmen.

Pombagira2/19/2020, 9:50:21 AM3 votes

Diana Me and my team get absolutely annihilated by her even if the player playing her isn't that good at Diana. So bursty, so mobile, she is so good in teamfights and taking towers. She can roam top or bot, dive, leave safely. She is really good right now and as much as I am happy to see Diana get the light she deserves I am banning her. [sg-ahri-2] Morde is a great ban too. He is so fucking powerful it's not even funny.

IP Masquerena2/19/2020, 3:27:21 PM3 votes

Shaco because Shaco and I don't need more of that in my life.

Łilÿpú2/19/2020, 5:19:10 PM3 votes

MasterYi because is a literal ticking time bomb that shreds everybody but untargettable mid-late. auto-win and too simple

Shameow2/19/2020, 4:17:50 PM3 votes

Supp; Zyra Her poke is crazy, and team fighting is absolute cancer when she builds item 3151 mid; Yasuo even though I can play against him without feeding my team will feed him and wind wall is too good in team fights

PekiCodex2/19/2020, 10:25:19 AM3 votes

Depends on the role I'm playing.

Top: Illaoi Basically a 2v1 against me because of the useless ghost she pulls out of me. Rito please bring back the duration reduction, I'll buy your skins I swear.

Jungle: Jax How exactly am I supposed to fight this guy?

Bot & Support Leona I just don't have the nerves to deal with an unkillable champion with 3 stuns.

Whereclowalk2/19/2020, 11:28:49 AM2 votes

Yasuo, Aphelios, Ekko, Jax. Just things with no counterplay. aside from those 4 i don't really care to ban anything else.

Jng Account2/19/2020, 9:57:11 AM2 votes

Vladimir

Switched from Aphelios to Vlad, eventhough I think that good Aph is beast and almost 1v9 machine, they are rare af here in dia eune elo(only not permed acc oof). Vlads are picked so much here and I just hate him.

TeodorusofNoxus2/19/2020, 9:58:30 AM2 votes

I main top and mid. I used to permaban Vayne but after playing my Darius vs a Heimer and getting my axe shooved up my ass I ban him always. 20 mana Q, zones you off existence. Busted and simple. When I play on Mid I ban Veigar as even if I solo kill him 3 times the game will not end fast enough and he just outscales no matter what.

Kai Guy2/19/2020, 10:03:36 AM2 votes

Morgana hard counter to CC bot lanes.

Blitzcrank Free wins off lucky Q and when Morg is not a huge problem for my picks in their early game.

LeeSin If I am jungeling.

Jaspers2/19/2020, 10:17:56 AM2 votes

Now Sett's a little bit nerfed, I'll let other people ban him and go back to banning:

Top: Urgot - % HP damage on knees and then 25% execute on a ranged ult? Think you can go full Armour tank against him? Nope, he's weirdly tanky and can just remove you from the map at 25% HP, no counter unless you pick GP. I loath this ultimate, think it's one of the worst things Riot added to league. Now we have 2 more version in Garen and Pykes.

Any other role: Yasuo - Even watching good people playing him tilts me at how stupid he is. Urf champ in normal play.

Baby Ghoul2/19/2020, 11:37:00 AM2 votes

I'm a support main.

My bans are Nautilus or Leona whichever one of them is open.

I ban both of them because until they make their move, you cannot do anything in lane.

That's so boring to play against, and when they do miss their engage, you can only punish them a little bit. Your lane won't get a gank against these champions either, so you're left staring at each other in the best case scenario.

The most annoying part is they can mess up, but if you or your ADC messes up, you're dead or wasting flash.

I prioritize Nautilus because his hitbox is very generous and that's deceptive, so even if you dodge him, he could still get you. More than likely he'll catch your ADC off guard at least once.

Another thing is I can't roam either because they'll just dive my ADC and kill him.

VelvetCrotch2/19/2020, 1:14:47 PM2 votes

I would ban many champs my most fav ban champions over the years till now are:

Fizz cause of E, W and passive MasterYi cause of Q and Ult Talon cause of E and Passive Ekko cause of Passive and Ult Riven Cause of everything Vladimir cause of everything Shaco and Evelynn cause of invis and burst Tryndamere cause what a stupid design

Blue Zergling2/19/2020, 1:47:16 PM2 votes

Top lane: Main Kayle / Chogath , ban Jax / Kled respectively. Jax is just too rough for kayle, while kled's bear trap cannot miss cho.

Mid lane: Main Morgana / Malzahar , ban Fizz / Neeko . Fizz is too damn annoying and neeko is a counter to my malz.

Jungle: When filled, ban Shaco . He may not be super popular, but a good shaco is a nightmare and a bad one is still one helluva nuisance.

Bot/Sup: Pyke / Aphelios / Senna , basically whichever isn't banned. Pyke isn't OP, just hate him.

If these are banned, default to Yasuo . Fuck windwall.

Iron Phantom2/19/2020, 2:04:06 PM2 votes

I main top, but I always ban Morgana she is horrible to deal with late game.

Hydroxlic2/19/2020, 2:06:41 PM2 votes

Draven overloaded amounts of damage at lvl 1

Haedrig2/19/2020, 2:22:12 PM2 votes

I main Zac and I usually banned shaco but after a couple games after Senna was released, I permaban her. Her percentage hp auto attack rips my hp apart and she out ranges me so I cant land a q on her unless I e her, but even then, her kit doesn't need her to front line too often so it is difficult to get to her in every situation. Her w also is a timed cancel to my e, and its just short enough to not let me cast e for like 3 seocnds :/ Overall, really unfun playing against and when ever shes on my team, their iq goes to like 34

Pika3102/19/2020, 2:43:09 PM2 votes

Rengar

I prefer being allowed to play the game. I queued for Summoner's Rift. I did not queue up to play Grey Screen Simulator. Zero interaction, zero counterplay, zero reaction time. Doesn't even matter if you have teammates, turrets & vision on him, once he hits level 6 it's guaranteed 150 to 0 every time his R is up & it's always up thanks to the Ultimate Hunter keystone. Runes Reforged was a conceptual failure, but that's a different problem.

Over side man2/19/2020, 5:25:49 PM2 votes

Pyke

Honestly screw this guy, he has a escape when he makes a big mistake. And his playstyle forces me to play a tank support every fricken time.

I mean I can deal with Blitzcrank , Nautilus and Thresh but Pyke is straight annoying.

D2Vincent2/19/2020, 6:04:19 PM2 votes

As a Karthus main, I usually permaban Fizz / Leblanc because I hate both of their mobility and especially the Troll Pole. If I end up jungling however, I permaban Kindred just because I really don't feel like dealing with her whole "I have to counterjungle just to keep her in check" thing.

Cdore2/19/2020, 9:47:31 PM1 votes

Master Yi should be your #1 ban of all time. You are unable to build to counter a slightly fed Yi. CC requires coordination, and that is the least thing you have in solo queue. As a tank player, a Master Yi can never be stopped by me. If I let a Yi slip through, I'm always picking Rammus just to act as his only counter in the game.

Berel Hawdos2/19/2020, 12:32:33 PM1 votes

Sett and Morde both are overtuned and annoying to deal with.

Aphelios op range and damage, those nerfs can't come soon enough Senna great utility and good dmg as both adc and support Pyke his kit is overloaded AF and his ult can win teamfights Fizz his E is OP and his fish is way too easy to land for an ability that guarantees a kill vs most champions

PrismalDawn2/19/2020, 10:12:54 AM1 votes

Vayne if I jungle because I like to play Volibear and somehow my team always managed to feed her.

Caitlyn if I support/adc because she just outranges everything.

Irelia if I top because fuck this champion

Ahri if I mid because fuck this champion super safe.

Chromatic Eagle2/19/2020, 5:04:09 PM1 votes

Sett in low elo. Too, jungle, or mid, he has a good win rate and I can’t trust my team to not feed him.

420 grams2/19/2020, 5:06:59 PM1 votes

Yasuo. I even play champs that are good into him, but he always has some potential in those match ups. But if it's a match up he's favored in, he just dominates heavily. Really just a toxic champ design

Cind3rkick2/19/2020, 9:55:36 AM1 votes

Either Yi or Senna. They are just too annoying to deal with if your team doesnt know how to play propperly.

Emperør Rhaast2/19/2020, 11:14:47 PM1 votes

Depends on what role I'm playing; ADC I ban Caitlyn because she's frankly completely unfair to play against with Stormrazor and counters a chunk of my champ pool; otherwise I ban Senna, Aphelios, MF, whatever else is broken and popular. If my support is picking a hard-engage champion and didn't ban Morgana then I'll ban her.

Midlane its either Fizz or Kassadin. I've been onetricking Asol on my smurf account and Fizz imo is his worst matchup. Kassadin is broken and counters my backup so I'll ban him either. In jungle I'll ban Lee Sin (targeting one tricks), Olaf, Yi, or Shaco. Those last 2 being because my elo has no idea how to vs either of them.

Support, generally, is a Thresh, Pyke, Morg ban.

And I don't play toplane.

Karn Bishop2/19/2020, 5:57:24 PM1 votes

Taric His pick rate spiked and nobody ever knows how to properly trade vs him in lane because its always unclear what he will do, i.e he has the same problem aphelios did but wasn't popular until he was.

TheBentOn32/19/2020, 6:00:42 PM1 votes

Ekko , he’s got the double whammy of being both super annoying and overpowered at the same time.

Flay2/19/2020, 11:54:53 PM1 votes

As a Thresh Main i ban Senna a good senna can just solo win teamfights with R and E for backline. In some ratings people dont have the best reaction time to react to hooks or stuns but her W you have about a second to react and think about how your going to trade right after you land it and then its another second or 2 stun that can stun multiple people in fights. Also infinitely scales and builds damage so its not someone you can just ignore in fights. In lane its tough for me to walk up to her when she takes glacial and has W.

Radiant Wukong2/19/2020, 6:19:11 PM1 votes

Veigar simply because I think Event Horizon is the most overpowered ability in the game. Beeb banning Veigar for about 8 years now.

Janakin2/19/2020, 6:19:27 PM1 votes

Twitch

Because you can write to your laners even 10,000 times that the enemy Twitch jungle WILL gank some lane at lvl 2, they still push as r%%%%%ed, get themselves killed and let the enemy twitch jgl (usually some smurf) snowball, and the game is fucked.

Aymin2/19/2020, 6:45:58 PM1 votes

Shaco He makes me angry.

Shaco mains should be on a watchlist.

Agent Corgi2/19/2020, 7:02:16 PM1 votes

For me, it has to be Caitlyn (Aphelios is a close second).

As a support, I can deal with alot of botlane picks. However Caitlyn can be hell to deal with sometimes since her range allows her to poke/harass with very little retaliation. Also most Caitlyn's like to place traps near the turret where it's almost impossible to see them, which gives her a free headshot if you just so happen to touch it.

Bottom line: Is she beatable, yes. Fun to play against, no.

Swiff Swish2/19/2020, 7:58:08 PM1 votes

I usually ban Blitzcrank when I play bot or support. This is just because I've always hated the champions playstyle and effort to screw you early game. Otherwise I would ban an ADC like Aphelios

Zetto2/19/2020, 8:30:59 PM1 votes

LeeSin The original jungle cancer.

Kenneky2/19/2020, 8:54:01 PM1 votes

Depends on the role I play, but I'll just list one. Since I'm one of the "400000 mastery points dudes" Thresh players (I'm just joking, I have 200k mastery points on Thresh) as someone noted I ban Morgana . Heh, love that comment, Pyke is way more safer than Thresh but ok...

Spiced Rum2/19/2020, 1:18:15 PM1 votes

When I’m mid I typically just ban Diana automatically. I hate her kit and how bursty she is. However Mordekaiser has been becoming a royal pain and I’ve been switching to banning him in some games.

If I’m adc and I’m 3rd-5th pick I will usually always ban MissFortune just for the fact she’s a big pick right now and tank engage supports literally make her unstoppable. If I’m 1st-2nd pick I’ll try and grab and usually ban Nautilus because he can be oppressive in lane and can literally 1v1 the adc. But Yasuo is always still a good ban for me as a marksmen only because I hate his dang windwall.

AvengedForeskin2/19/2020, 1:20:47 PM1 votes

Top: Fiora or Vayne , mostly because I cannot stand max health true damage. Mid: Ryze is just super lame rn, if not Ryze then definitely Cassiopeia . Jg: don't play much jg anymore but when I do, instaban Shaco ; I know he isn't good, but he's so annoying. Bot: Vayne , same reason as top, if I'm playing Jhin, however, I ban Caitlyn , two crazy range champs but 1 of them probably knows how to play ADC; I'm not the one who knows. Supp: whoever my ADC wants, or Leona / Nautilus , just for the CC.

sirus otter2/19/2020, 9:09:51 PM1 votes

aphelios because im a support main and feel like i can win any matchup except one that's borderline busted because why did anyone think was balanced?

DeathBurst2/19/2020, 1:51:47 PM1 votes

Usually depends on what champion I intend to play myself, and what queue/MMR I'm currently at.

Morde when I want to play Illaoi. He wins easily without ultimate, and with ultimates, he can just R just after Illaoi cast hers to completely negate it.
GP or Vayne depending on my mood when I want to play Garen.
Poppy when I want to play Kled
Xin or some equivalent flavor-of-the-month early game duelist when I am Jungle (I play mostly Tank Junglers, I can't deal with a good duelist that invades me, especially not in SoloQ where coordination is low).
I rarely play botlane, more often Sup than ADC. When I do, I consider banning Morgana, Draven, Cait, Blitz.
In lower MMR, I consider banning Yi.
Other bans I consider worthwhile sometimes: Nasus, Kassadin, Kayle, Akali, Yasuo, Irelia, Thresh.

JRobin312/19/2020, 9:12:12 PM1 votes

I would ban Mordekaiser ... but I'm actually okay with accepting the auto-loss vs (I made a thread a while back in which I accepted any and all strategies to counter , and implemented all such strategies in ranked play against , including the one's you listed, gave feedback and received all responses and tested those in play, etc, etc until thread exhaustion and all such strategies failed to work for me in actual ranked play against Mordekaiser except for Morgana who I specifically wasn't interested in playing for the sole purpose of countering - Morgana is one of the better designed champions RIOT has ever made BTW ). Why accept the auto-loss? Because players in my ELO stopped picking him so often. And just to be clear, even if it were not an auto-loss vs Mordekaiser , he would be worth banning solely on the basis of the crap gameplay experience. But I don't ban him... Kayn is also very annoying to play against and is worth banning. In fact, there are a lot of champions who are just stupid to have to play against or who are OP (not as stupid as , but still... shouldn't exist in this game). That said, they still aren't making the number one ban for me and the reason is... pick rate! I want my ban to be effective and that's why I usually ban MasterYi .

But wait... I can usually counter MasterYi pretty easily and usually wreck his day! Why would I ban a champion that I have no trouble playing against, isn't annoying for me to play against, and isn't OP?!? The reason I ban and the reason I consider many of my bans like Sett or Malphite (he's suddenly popping up in my games again)... because in the ELO that I play at, my teammates seem to be inept when it comes to playing against certain (easy-to-play-against) champions. So MasterYi gets the ban because he is picked often and farms teammates in my ELO fairly easily. It doesn't matter that I easily and regularly outplay him with basically any champion I pick in the support role. I, generally, need my teammates to not throw the game and they simply throw too easily and too often against MasterYi .

There are other options that might be considered as often picked with good win rate... like MissFortune . But I find that my team doesn't throw against . If I get my team ahead, then isn't going to stop them from winning that game. I'll simply play a support and relies on that in lane poke and grabbing those in lane kills, which I simply deny her. So she doesn't make the cut despite being often picked with good win rate. This shows how difficult it is to really figure out the right champions to ban. Another champion that's been pretty good to ban was Ekko but he's played now slightly less often than he was a patch or so ago. The reason he was good to ban was his ability to stall games for no good reason, pick up kills where he shouldn't, avoid counter-play, and just being overall a bad game experience as well. It had very little to do with his being played in the jungle (which is the RIOT reason for the inconsequential change they made to his kit). But the perception that Ekko wasn't as strong seems to have impacted his pick rate despite not affecting anything else about him, which bumps him down a notch from a top ban.

There are really a lot of champions RIOT has added to the game or reworked that are just low quality, scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of game-play experience. And it's actually an intense competition of many to figure out who gets the ban. Therefore, these recommendations are likely to change with the very next game patch (or possibly even before the next game patch), while at the same time that the patch is likely not to address any of the underlying problems with any of the champions that are high considerations for me to ban. I feel that it is more likely that RIOT will add another contender for the position of ban-worthy than to remove a contender. The irony of it all is that the most annoying and ban-worthy champions don't make top ban because it turns out my teammates can't handle playing against other very basic champions with good kits! And that, unironically, champions with good kits are also popular! You'd a thunk?

Lord Mayert2/19/2020, 9:21:05 PM1 votes

Darius Even though I played him a lot last season he counters all of my champs so I can't just leave him unbanned. MasterYi If I am jungle and playing a farm jungler don't want him to run me down at later stages of the game. Fizz If I am mid cuz he is gonna dive me anyways If I am adc and I don't like getting ran down by a yi. Morgana I play dirty hook and cc champions so she is a counter.

Troll Slaiyer2/19/2020, 9:29:43 PM1 votes

top Aatrox way too lazy to be constantly dodging his spam. he hurts really bad too. mid Ahri her charm lasts waaaaaaaaaaay too long + 3 dashes on an assassin. i mean at least zed takes skill and has no hard cc to perfectly land everything. sometimes ill ban Morgana if im playing skarner or if im in bot lane cuz she is obnoxious af .

so many good bans.