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All the Nidalee changes since early season 5 make me sad

SILVER ELO GOD·3/26/2018, 12:50:05 PM·14 votes·3,755 views

PLEASE don't rework her again or anything rash like that. Were all the changes since her introduction to the jungle really necessary? There were so many ways to make her viable in the jungle without impacting her laning power. She was fine as a laner in early season 5 ( not more oppressive than say a Kennen, but lacked CC). But then there was the change to her passive applying to neutral creeps which made her a nightmare to balance. She needed to either have Hunt be nerfed vs Neutrals or not apply at all and look for other ways to make her a jungler. But instead we got pounce reset nerfed (really impacted laning), heal nerfed and changed several times, 2 autoresets removed and useless traps (no more %hp). All of the listed changes brought down her laning way more than her jungling. Instead of "expanding her playstyle to all 5 roles" which was the ORIGINAL INTENTION of the change, we got a very binary jungler. At that rate she will become a ranged Diana in season 10.

People played her in lane since season 2 and STILL DO to this day even if it's very hard to pull off, because honestly it's waay more fun to play her there. All of us at /r/NidaleeMains keep discussing this and would very much prefer to see not only toplane Nidalee, but midlane Nidalee make a return.

Please do some minor work to make her an adequate champion again. She was so much more... I will post this weekly until I get a redpost or a solid argument against my point.

55 Comments

Zero Shingetsu3/26/2018, 1:01:28 PM6 votes

This in general is why I've come to hate this game. They're trying to shoehorn champions into roles, rather than letting the players adapt champions to their own style. Look, if you can play Jungle Nami with success, you should be able to do it. But Riot sees Nami and goes "No. We want her to be a support. Let's rework what makes her capable of jungling so it deliberately does no damage to jungle camps." That's the sort of mentality they have.

Source: Veteran player who has long specialized in identifying and playing the unorthodox, who then lost the ability to do so in multiple cases due to targeted changes that made my specific play style impossible.

Sire Hippington3/26/2018, 4:05:58 PM5 votes

The Really sad part is how ironic the nida situation is. The reason they made her passive work on jungle mobs was to create diversity, to support players that wanted to jungle her, and also because jungle fits her thematic as a huntress. The beginning of it all was riot NOT trying to shoehorn nida but opening her up to more roles. But after that, they failed horribly on the follow-up work and slowly but surely destroyed lane nida in their atempts to balance jungle nida, rather than saying 'ok, we tried and it doesn't work, good by jungle nida'.

But yea. through S5 and after, it certainly seems like riot actively tries to shoehorn champs into speficif roles and item/rune builts killing true diversity(not 'what zeal item do i pick today' diversity) left and right, though they seem to go a bit towards allowing offbuilts again, only bayby steps so far, but atleast atempts into that direction with Kai'sa or the AP ratio buffs for gragas on PBE, or also the hybrid ratios on irelia that might allow ap-builts.

Rico Nasty3/26/2018, 6:06:20 PM3 votes

No, she absolutely needs a rework. That's the problem, her kit is all over the place. It doesn't feel like it accomplishes one goal or like she's good at any one thing. Overhaul her E and W, they're bad and offer nothing to her kit. Make small tweaks to cougar form abilities. Add some useful things to her human form kit in replace of her E and W.

WindLord70703/26/2018, 9:01:19 PM3 votes

PREACH IT. also she hasn't just been played in lane since season 2 she's been played in lane since the beginning as OG as it gets

Dear riot revert nidalee to before her passive applied to jungle camps and GIVE HER DAMAGE MODIFIERS ON HER ABILITIES FOR JUNGLE CAMPS LIKE OTHER CHAMPS and then we can all be happy and come back to the game and play the living shit out of it all day like we used to.

Arduno3/29/2018, 1:22:40 AM2 votes

She needs to be able to one shot people like rengar They would make a nice couple together! mehehehehehehehe

SwiftKitten883/27/2018, 2:19:34 AM1 votes

worst part about the 5.5 change was how the could have accoomplished the extact same thing by lowering the PRE-EXISTING CAP!!! they decided to put on jungle monsters FOR THIS VERY REASON from 200 to something like 50/100/150/200/250

instead they change her 8% max hp + 2% more per 100 ap

into 40 + .2 ap

that way when an enemy walks over a trap with 20 hp before i hit 13, thier base hp regen is enough to save them...

(this is literally one of the most tilting things in the entire game for me)