@Riot Only 1 difference between Juggernauts that do well and Juggernauts that don't

Kingsgrave·1/23/2016, 12:59:03 PM·1 votes·1,378 views

The Champions I count as Juggernauts (even tho only about 5 of them are specifically defined as such by Riot) I do because they fit the definitions and have the same exact qualities in most cases as the defined Juggernauts.

The Definition of Juggernaut:

When you think brute force, these champions should come to mind: powerful, durable, immobile and melee. They’re League’s hulking titans who, come late game, turn into super tanky carries who’ll pretty much destroy anyone foolish enough to get in their way. The prototypical juggernaut is Nasus, the classic one dog late game wrecking machine. The archetypal raid boss can only do his thing when he’s in melee range, and his lack of gap closer means he often has to rely on allied speed boosts like Sivir’s On The Hunt or well-aimed crowd control like a Morgana binding to get close, but once he does, he unleashes the power of his trademark Siphoning Strike.

Works/Does Well: Darius Garen Nasus DrMundo Skarner Volibear Sion Olaf

Doesn't Work/Doesn't Do Well: Mordekaiser Illaoi


Has reliable CC: Darius Garen Nasus DrMundo Skarner Volibear Sion Olaf

Doesn't have reliable CC: Mordekaiser Illaoi

Mordekaiser's game health and viability would be far better if he didn't have to waste 3000g just getting a minor CC and Illaoi would have a much easier time being relevant if her Ultimate had a huge but very short duration slow

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Rebonack1/23/2016, 3:23:00 PM3 votes

Easy way to distinguish between a Juggernaut, a Fighter, and a Tank.

Do they have any form of instant mobility (Dash, Flash, Jump, ect)? Yes? Then they're a Fighter or possibly a Tank

Do they have lockdown CC? Yes? Then they're a Tank.

Do they have lockdown CC AND instant mobility? Then they're definitely a Tank.

Do they have neither instant mobility nor lockdown CC? Then they're a Juggernaut.

trash sion1/23/2016, 1:00:52 PM1 votes

The only identified juggernauts are Garen, Darius, Skarner, and Morde. The others are just tanks.

EcchiOtakuTM1/23/2016, 1:39:43 PM1 votes

Only Darius, Garen, Nasus, Skarner, Sion, Morde, and Illaoi are juggernauts.

Mundo isn't a juggernaut since he's suppose to poke people with a cleaver and has a much stronger mobility tool compared to garen's which automatically heals him for essentially a second hp bar and he doesn't build damage with consistent heavy CC making him more of a normal bruiser(or fighter, really wish riot never changed the term)and tank instead of juggernaut.

Volibear isn't a juggernaut because same thing as mundo, a reliable mobility tool, doesn't build damage, and consistent+heavy CC. and more along the lines of being a bruiser then a juggernaut but even before that he's a tank.

Sion is a juggernaut due to the fact he lacks AS, high base damage, gets kited easily, lacks mobility but catching someone makes them really feel it however he's kinda normal bruiser and almost a juggernaut. He has supremely heavy CC, and with ultimate and CDR although unreliable for mobility purposes it gives hima free engage. Then factoring in his passive all of which make him a more bruiser-like but "Almost juggernaut". Just wish his passive was more reliable.

Olaf- He's a bruiser, High AS, Consistent CC, sustain, an ulti to counter kite which is a heavy weakness of juggernauts,

And idk what can be done for morde but bringing him more and more back to solo lanes.

**Illaoi just needs to be reworked not buffed. ** http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/u7JUVF59-illaoi-needs-a-rework-not-a-buff