Hey Riot? For your new spear can I just make a suggestion so you don't fuck up with OP shit AGAIN?

losdougrados·5/19/2018, 12:33:22 AM·36 votes·11,763 views

Make its passive melee only

Graves Jhin

The fact that anyone even has to point this kind of basic common sense shit to you people when the champs that will be obvious abuse cases are also popular picks makes me sick.

37 Comments

Pika Fox5/19/2018, 12:58:09 AM10 votes

Graves is fine being able to use it, and urgot is really in need of it.

THE RlVER KlNG5/19/2018, 4:38:32 PM5 votes

this item is broken even on melees

you shouldnt't get like 10 stacks of the aram horn on a damage item. especially since death's dance already exists. an overall extremely badly designed item in my opinion. this will be abused by everyone.

Häxel5/19/2018, 1:03:36 PM4 votes

The passive of Dragons Heart has a 500 range. If 3 enemies are in 500 range of an adc like jhin, the adc probably is already dead (also stated by riot). And no, the first passive alone is far to weak to purchase the item just for this. yes they could make it melee only. it isn't even such a good item for urgot as he builds more tanky. still there is no reyl reason fi it is already designed to be quite weak on them. graves can sue it in lategame. but he builds first stuff like phantomdancer where he has less bonus ad as a standard bruiser, so it is less good on him as on other bruisers.

Onotori5/19/2018, 12:54:17 AM4 votes

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the champs that will be obvious abuse cases are also popular picks

That's the plan -- to solidify their popularity. You think they actually care about balance?

Verxint5/19/2018, 3:59:45 AM3 votes

I'm also worried about assassins abusing this item, but I'm not sure what should be done about it.

T4underbolt5/19/2018, 2:03:59 PM3 votes

Not gonna happen. Riot just stated about jungle changes that they didnt intend to listen to any feedback because they are sure the changes they did are right. What makes you think they will listen to feedback about anything else?

Queš5/19/2018, 9:07:08 AM2 votes

Urgot FeelsBadMan Urgot

But I agree with you.Sacrifices must be made once again

Ryusaether5/19/2018, 12:43:08 PM1 votes

Doesn't work with Jhin's passive. Gotta see if it works for Noxian Might, Conqueror and Pyke's Passive.

Plus Graves needs nerfs on his stats, he SHOULD be able to use this item, same for Urgot.

SuperCommander5/19/2018, 10:16:08 AM1 votes

Can't they just make the passive be "Gain block equal to 15% of bonus AD from items"? I.e it only counts the raw AD from items and not champions passives and so on.

Destrucxiong5/19/2018, 12:50:33 AM1 votes

I do actually agree, all my Friends agree with that item should be only for melee. I would do that with guinsoo Also, but It would be like, It gives the half for ranged champs, like, instead of 4%, u get 2%. Or idk, It would be too rough, do somethimd about jhin, i want to ban something else

TwinkiePro5/19/2018, 4:03:54 AM1 votes

Jhin does not get DR from his passive. All AD afforded by his passive is ignored. He gains the same as anyone else.