I want the dynQ defenders to tell me why you don't want soloQ re-introduced.

franticFurball·3/29/2016, 6:33:26 AM·9 votes·833 views

Give me the reason guys. Lets hear it.

Because, here is what I don't get: In EVERY SINGLE THREAD demanding the return of soloQ, you guys show up, try to downvote it away, and if that doesn't work out, come up with statements like "Game is better naow" to "defend" against the return of soloQ.

Please tell me why you do that, because these threads are not intending to take your toys away.

DynQ can stay for all we soloQ players care. We just want an alternative gamemode added (one that has been in the game for years by the way).

So lets hear your actual reasons. Whats so bad about soloQ? Why do you guys seem so anxious about its return? Lets see if we can find the reason.

14 Comments

CookieButtLav3/29/2016, 8:28:51 AM7 votes

I don't particularly want to avoid the possiblity of there being SoloQ again. Both queue's have their own merits and it's idiocy to ignore the points that the other can bring to the table.

I personally like DynamicQ more so than Solo already since it's practically teambuilder without the crappy queue times, and that alone has me sold. All champ select disputes I've seen have been sorted out without any hassles or yelling, and in most cases in a calm and collected manner, which is also nice. I also like the fact that I no longer have to rely on at least three other random players on my team for a victory, unless I choose to play by myself and open my games up to the same format that SoloQ provided.

Sure, there are arguments against DynamicQ and some of them are pretty solid:

With every four man premade, there's at least one SoloQ player in that game, and with DynamicQ that's something that is obviously going to be inherrently part of the package, however assuming every game puts you against a premade is just folly. I've never been against a premade unless I was in one myself, and I say that confidently, because more often than not, the other team is flaming me for being "part of a filthy, dirty, boosted premade in their SoloQ game".

I know this topic is a area of hot debate at the moment, but I only ask that we engage in a discussion, not an argument.

People may at times come off as defensive beyond the point of there being discussion, but you must understand that these posts are in response to (in most cases) some pretty serious bouts of hatred from the community. Extreme acts of any kind will incite the equal reaction from the opposition, especially when people feel so strongly about a subject.

Clear your mind and state why you feel either way, instead of simply declaring whichever way you're inclined

Spanked eGirl3/29/2016, 7:17:56 AM5 votes

Because I have had no issue that all the kids crying about are saying there are. I am in Gold, so very middle of the pack, and it is the exact same as before for groups. I still win my games playing Solo and am still climbing as usual.

xl Kirito lx3/29/2016, 7:28:55 AM5 votes

And if any of us attempt to join the conversation, we get downvoted to oblivion.

Straight up, I don't mind soloQ. I think they should bring it out, wait a month or two, and then when no one plays it, remove it. People want to attribute inability to climb, to premades or DynamicQ, or whatever. When people can go solo, and realize that there are still trolls, feeders, and AFK's. When they realize that they can't climb because they're in the mmr they should be, then they'll head back to dynamic. People forgot that old soloQ had all of the same people, just differently organized.

That being said, arguments. A lot of people want to diminish the value of DynamicQ by questioning the validity of climbing. That a person can be carried to a mmr, that they didn't actually earn, their team did. I can make the same argument about soloQ. Having 4 random people, it's whoever gets luckier with 4 randoms. I'd argue there's a better representation of skill in Dynamic, but I can see the argument for solo. I'll cede this point.

As someone who's climbed through silver multiple times, gold twice, and now high plat; You're insane if you're trying to climb solo. You get the solo pushing ADC bot, the 0-0-0 Jungler at 20min, the 1v5'ing Zed mid. At the very least you should duo. Trio isn't bad, but you start to notice the skill difference. 4 / 5 people is insanely hard to group as. The game's easier with someone else good along. Doesn't even have to be good, just has to avoid raging.

Finally, people overestimate how many people want soloQ. You are the vocal minority. Not the silent majority. A few people like to link RedMercys new video, where he talks about SoloQ. I love that video. After watching it, I checked the comment sections. It was overwhelming in support of DynamicQ. The fact that threads on the boards here have net downvotes implies this. It implies that more people dislike the idea, or at the very least want to stop hearing about it, then people who actually want it.

In conclusion, I refer back to my first point. DynamicQ isn't the cause of ragers/feeders/afk's. DynamicQ isn't the reason you can't climb. SoloQ will have the same number of trolls, and probably even more. You still won't be able to climb. If they brought soloQ in, let people play it, it'd be gone within months. People just need to remember how much worse old soloQ was.

Chaos Milk Tea3/29/2016, 6:53:39 AM5 votes

Because the main mode of a multiplayer game shouldn't be solo mode. How did we even let that happen? The demand for solo que doesn't show how bad premades are, but rather how little incentive there is in the game to ask players you liked in a game to keep playing with you.

In an MMO you can chat with people out of dungeons and get to know each other, eventually making a few friends and going on awesome quests. In league you flame each other because you're all anonymous people on the internet and you definitely won't ever see each other again.

Slamurai Jack3/29/2016, 2:16:34 PM5 votes

Because if you think queue times and lack of supports are bad now, wait until they're split between 2 queues.

Leeerzeichen3/29/2016, 7:32:01 AM4 votes

DynQ needs solo player to work properly, because they increase the possible number of combinations (4: 0 -> 1, 3: 1 -> 2, 2: 1 -> 3).

MoonToonEx3/29/2016, 7:10:18 PM1 votes

Prob because as it stands it's us solo peeps are there to "fill" the space for groups of 3-4 premades. If Solo comes back then why the hell would people like us use their Que? It COULD cripple their que as mostly groups of less than 5 will be waiting forever with lower numbers of people to fill up the space where as solo would likely be OK.

Abyssphere3/29/2016, 6:46:22 PM1 votes

There's no point in people who like dynamic queue talking about why they like it. If you say anything that isn't "Riot are fucking Nazis for delaying solo q and everyone who likes to premade should literally be shot", you get downvoted and ignored.

I'd talk about why I like dynamic queue if there was any point but people like you don't want to see any posts in favour of dynamic queue unless it's easy for you to insult the person making that post. Why should I spend my time writing reasonable words just so people can use those words as circlejerk fuel?