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Autofill is the worst system on the planet.

Dr40UR·7/11/2019, 6:14:41 PM·7 votes·1,353 views

So, there's a few reasons autofill is the worst thing in the game.

First off, and many high elo players will agree, it is best to learn maybe 1 or 2 champions in the game, refine them, and get good at using those champions exclusively. A LOT of high elo players are OTP's. There's even high elo players who dodge/feed everytime their OTP is banned. So, Riot introduced the genius system that lets you pick your roles that you can play your champion that you're good at, and let you play those roles. You will get those roles, no more fighting over roles, you can play your champion where they shine. What a great idea!

So, who the fuck came up with Autofill? Why FORCE someone to play a role they're not comfortable in? One they aren't prepared at all to play? I get that queue times are sometimes longer because some roles are more popular than others. That's fine. 5 minutes longer in queue isn't going to kill anyone. No one expects to press a button, and instantly get a game. I'm okay with waiting longer, if it means I can play my champion in my role.

All autofill ACTUALLY does is get you put on a team where you're in a bad spot off the bat, you're struggling, you feed, you get flamed, and you're forced to play a 40 minute long game with everyone telling you how dogshit you are at the game and to off yourself. It literally ruins the game for 4 other people, and there's NOTHING you can do about it. You are FORCED to get autofilled, at least once. Autofill alone can ruin an entire game, and ends up being nothing but a waste of time. But I can still get reported because my team is saying I'm intentionally feeding because I don't have the confidence or know-how to play a role I was forced to play. How is that fair? How is that fun? Who thought it was a good idea?

Autofill boils down to "Hey, other people don't want to wait in queue, so you have to spend 40 minutes suffering now. Have fun!" It's stupid. And whoever came up with it is stupid. Just take it out of the game. If people don't like the longer queue times, they could learn a less popular role, or find a friend who plays support, or learn to have some fucking patience. You already spend 10x as long in the game as you do in the queue, so it's not like people queue up for a game and only have a limited time to play. And if they do, that's their fault.

Remove autofill. No one likes it. It's stupid. It makes people upset, and frustrated, and makes you feel like shit because you can't play ADC when you're a top lane bruiser main. Just take it out of the game, and stop listening to the idiots crying that their queue was 7 minutes long instead of 4.

12 Comments

GonahtanuGepardi7/11/2019, 6:40:47 PM7 votes

First off, and many high elo players will agree, it is best to learn maybe 1 or 2 champions in the game, refine them, and get good at using those champions exclusively.

This is ONLY to get better faster and to climb faster. However, if you ARE a high elo player, you should know how to play multiple champions. Every high elo player knows that and OTP's are generally frowned upon.

So, who the fuck came up with Autofill?

The same people that came up with role selection. It's 100% necessary to have to have tolerable queue times. If autofill hadn't been implemented back then, league would very likely be a dead game. 1 hour queue times could be tolerable for a little while but after some time, people would get tired of wasting their time in queues and quit.

Why FORCE someone to play a role they're not comfortable in?

Better get comfortable then. It's not riot's fault you aren't good at the game.

I get that queue times are sometimes longer because some roles are more popular than others. That's fine. 5 minutes longer in queue isn't going to kill anyone.

If only it was only 5 minutes. 5 mins is a normal queue time in diamond. Without autofill, it would easily be 20-60 minutes. Do you understand what that does to the game? people in higher elo would just play on their smurfs, killing any high level competition from existence. People in the lowest elos would have similar queue times and they wouldn't bother playing the game at that point.

But I can still get reported because my team is saying I'm intentionally feeding because I don't have the confidence or know-how to play a role I was forced to play. How is that fair? How is that fun? Who thought it was a good idea?

It's fair because their reports do absolutely nothing. Reports don't do anything themselves. When someone reports a player, the automated system then checks that player and if he broke any rules. If he did break rules, he gets punished. If he didn't break any rules, the report is thrown into the trash can.

Autofill boils down to "Hey, other people don't want to wait in queue, so you have to spend 40 minutes suffering now.

Believe it or not, your fun doesn't go over the fun of the majority.

If people don't like the longer queue times, they could learn a less popular role

Or you could learn other roles (like you actually should) so you wouldn't hinder your team and we can keep the short queue times. This game has always been about learning every role. This isn't a single player game and learning just your own role is not enough and will not make you good.

BoRnToKiLL6667/11/2019, 6:27:42 PM5 votes

Cant say everyone doesnt like it, my friend who plays unranked only says he likes autofill because he gets to try other roles

LiterallyInting7/11/2019, 6:39:04 PM2 votes

honestly, I feel like it should still be kept in the game but it should be optional if you want to active auto filling or not. (In case you want a quicker queue time or your confident in any lane, you'd mostly just pick fill tho)

But yeah, either remove it or just add it as optional.

Either you get the 2 roles you want to play or you get the 2 roles and a another one in case no ones queuing for that role at the time.

Mr Elessar7/11/2019, 7:11:15 PM2 votes

I had a Leona if one of my recent games who got autofilled but mains Yasuo. It was a terrible experience for everyone in our team. She had to go against a Yummi one trick with over 366 games. It was a one sided massacre.

Also not the worst system, league own IFS is worse.

Karoloooo7/11/2019, 6:33:29 PM2 votes

Autofill causes chaos.

Pika Fox7/11/2019, 8:15:17 PM2 votes

Autofill is one of the best designed systems. Without it, you wouldnt be able to queue for a role, PERIOD.

Dr40UR7/12/2019, 2:05:00 PM1 votes

So, to respond to everyone because I'm lazy, there's a few things.

First off, learning every single role is certainly not expected of everyone. That's a very wide range of champions to learn, and between shifting metas, patches, champion balances, reworks, new champions, and etc those roles are constantly changing. You can have all your essentials down, but it's just facts that some people are more comfortable in positions than others. The chess metaphor is just as stupid, since chess is a game where you have 1 board and you're the only player. Nothing changes. Chess is chess. Each player has the same pieces, the same board, the same time, etc. Nobody comes out like "We decided Queen pieces are too overpowered, and nerfed their movement to only a maximum of 5 spaces in order to give other pieces a chance to shine." It's not like that at all. I USED to know how to jungle, once upon a time. But Riot has bastardized that role so hard that it's not even close to what it was 3 years ago. Junglers constantly complain that nearly every season they have to completely relearn their role. And that's just one role. Some people are generalist players, and I flex my position every now and again. I don't play "exclusively top" but I am most comfortable top lane, and enjoy it the most. I'm not comfortable at all in the jungle, or as an ADC.

Second off, why not let autofill be an option? I don't care if I have to wait longer for queues. I really don't. But maybe you don't want to. Maybe you're good at every role, and more of a generalist player. That's what the fucking fill role is for, right? So, why FORCE people to do it? Do you really think a majority of players would only queue mid and top and you'd never find a support or jungle? Plenty of people play these roles too. It's not like it's unheard of to have a support main, especially since support is way more flexible nowadays than it was way back then. So, sure. Maybe it shouldn't be removed entirely. But it should be a choice, since all it does is promote toxicity.

Third off, League is already known as a rather toxic game. You can say "Sorry, I got autofilled and I don't really get how to play this role or champion. I never play down here." or "I haven't played bot lane in like, 10 patches. Why is everything different?" but people DON'T CARE. You're feeding. You lost them the game. It's your fault. You're garbage. Uninstall. Kill yourself. THAT'S what people who get autofilled have to deal with. And, in my opinion, that's not fair. Then you have the other side of the spectrum, when the toxic people get autofilled. "Give me bot lane or I'll feed." "Oh, I can't get bot lane? Guess I'm going tank Ivern top lane with Cleanse and Ghost." "I didn't get the role I wanted, so now you lose the game." Or people just straight up harassing you all game because you got the role you wanted, but they didn't. It promotes toxicity in the worst ways, because it's forced and not a choice. Sure, you only have to do it once, then maybe again in 2-3 games. But it's still infuriating, especially when you only play 3 or 4 games a day.

Fourth, plenty of people are considered "really good" at the game, and don't play every single role. Expecting every single player ever to learn every single role is just not a thing. Hell, some PRO PLAYERS who are considered the BEST IN THE WORLD don't just play every single role. I rarely see QT jungle, I rarely see Faker jungle or support, I rarely see IWD playing ADC or support. It's just a simple fact that even if you CAN play every role well enough, you're simply less likely to win because you got an off-role. Like I said before, it compromises the chances to win before the game even starts.

As for the CS-GO metaphor, that's a completely different thing. CS-GO has a system where you're forced to learn how to use different guns in different situations and work together with your team. However, you're also not stuck with 1 gun the entire round.

In my personal opinion, Autofill should be an option. Mostly because of how this game works, and the fact it just straight up ruins half of my games. If it's not me getting autofilled somewhere I don't want to go, it's someone else.

5050BS7/11/2019, 7:57:46 PM1 votes

Players are willing to wait 10m in Que to get a decent match but Riot thinks we will stop playing if we wait more then 30s.....