Does riot actually think sated devourer/Guinsoo's are balanced items?

NastyNas94·3/13/2016, 6:13:11 PM·153 votes·37,637 views

Instead of constantly nerfing the champs that use them, its the stupid items that makes them insane

you can literally build devourer/Guinsoo's and go straight tank after than and be unkillable

they are nerfing shyvana, master yi and im pretty sure Warwick's winrate right now is unbelievably high now that he can abuse these items as well

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Very Hard Engage3/13/2016, 6:23:52 PM108 votes

so sorry, but since the items were introduced more recently.... they HAVE to nerf the champions instead, otherwise it means they made a mistake with their most recent addition, and they cant have that.

riot never undoes something, they just keep going around and around

RiotMeddler3/14/2016, 12:40:49 AM99 votes

We've got some concerns about both Devourer and Guinsoo's and are looking at some possible adjustments to both of them, targeting game health and the play patterns they create, not just their raw numbers. If those do work out they'll still be a few patches out at a guess though, hence the recent nerf to Devourer as a shorter term adjustment.

Those two items likely needing some work doesn't mean champions who use them are necessarily balanced though. We're nerfing Shyv and Yi because we feel that they're too strong in general. Tank Yi in particular isn't a playstyle we feels appropriate unless he's having to take a significant damage hit for it, given it removes one of his biggest intended weaknesses.

Dominick Destine3/13/2016, 6:31:18 PM6 votes

you can literally build devourer/Guinsoo's and go straight tank after than and be unkillable

That's an exaggeration... but I do agree that they are a bit too cost efficient.

A simple solution would be to boost the cost of these items by 250 gold and that would make them perfect.

Dealth3/13/2016, 7:31:09 PM5 votes

Riot nerfs Guinsoo Rageblade "Wah wah, now rageblade is useless on non-devourer champions"

Riot nerfs Devourer "Wah wah, now off-meta devourer jungles (warwick, noctourne) are useless"

Riot nerfs certain champions instead "Wah wah, Riot should nerf the items instead!" (this thread)

Mecha MaIphite3/13/2016, 8:00:22 PM2 votes

what if rito is purposefully making these items strong so they can low key nerf champs they hate