Let's make it clear: If you deserve to go up in rank, you will*
*as long as you get the jungler that ganks in your team or are that jungler yourself
*as long as you get the jungler that ganks in your team or are that jungler yourself
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ah, i see
so i got this high every season because i was lucky to get a very good jungler in every year sounds about right
Most of my losses are due to either: A) Top lane is 0/6 by 12 minutes. B) Mid lane is 0/6 by 12 minutes C) Jungler has no sense of the map D) People don't understand what a team composition is
I make plenty of mistakes myself, but MOST of my losses are from these reasons. It's extremely tough to recover when the enemy syndra is 10/0, and if they have half a brain they will not be out of position for us to kill her.
heres what happens whenever i play ranked i play mid - top is bad (and jglr never ganks) i play top - mid is bad (jgler never ganks) i play support - i get my adc fed and we usually win the game cuz im an awesome support but i dont main that role. i play adc - jgler is bad and also never ganks i play jg - every single one of my lanes are doing bad all pinging me to gank them then i have to spend all laning phase camping my teams lanes and end up falling behind on cs and exp then later on in the game (if we didnt ff by then) my team bitches at me for not having a lot of cs [slayer-jinx-unamused]
Before Rito banned pros from doing this (as they should have) pros/high elo players would make new accounts and stream a bronze to challenger climb (purposely tank promos to get into bronze). Now, if they can do that AT WILL, it has to be more than just they had the better jungler almost EVERY SINGLE GAME. Perhaps, and I'm just spit-balling here, it's because they DESERVE to climb. Maybe the better player, over the course of a large number of games, will get an average rank that is higher than other players. If over hundreds of games, you end up Plat 5, or Diamond 2, or Silver 3, or whatever, it's because you belong there. Not everyone gets to climb. Not everyone is good enough to. That's what it boils down to. Better players climb higher than worse players. Until of course you reach your upper limit.
And I've seen pros on stream that don't make bullshit excuses like, "Ermahgerd couldn't win this one cuz top is retarded!" No, you'll hear them say something like, "Oh well, sometimes these games happen. I'll get the next one." I used to be a really big believer in "I won my lane, did my job, still lost - derp" but at some point I recognized that I could do more to win than just win my lane. Maybe I could be more attentive to teleporting bot lane to turn a gank around, or roaming mid, or invading their jungle, etc. When I adopted that attitude of looking outside my lane, my rank went up. Now I'm looking for ways to improve even further to get even higher. I'm not looking at each game and complaining that I had an afk, or that someone (including myself) had a bad game. I'm looking at each opportunity to help my team in any capacity to win the game. Part of the skill involved is using your advantage to do more than win your lane. Part of the skill is knowing how to win the game regardless of the result of your lane.
There are plenty of elements that vary from one game to the next. That's when we rely on statistics to even it out. You get a bad jungler sometimes? So do the 5 people on their team. You have a bad game sometimes? So does the enemy team, or the other 4 people on your team. The only constant from game to game is you. You and your skill decide your rank when you play enough games to average out all the other factors.
Finally, if you attribute bad luck to why you lost your games, or bad teammates, then you MUST also attribute your wins to good luck or good teammates, right? Of course not! Most people would say they won because they were better most of the time (I think everyone can agree that they get lucky sometimes or that they get carried sometimes). The reverse holds true for losses. Sometimes it's bad luck or a bad teammate, and there's not a lot you can do to change that, but most of the time there was SOMETHING you cold do to have won the game (until it slips away and snowballs out of control). Don't look at your losses as other people's fault, while simultaneously looking at your wins as your own accomplishment. The fact is that there are a lot of factors that go into both success and failure, but that's why we play many games; to average out all the extraneous factors.
*As long as you grind enough game, you will climb.
10 or 1000 games? depend on luck.
Ask Gold, Plat, Diamond players. If all of them played only jungler to rank up then your statement is correct.
Nothing prevents you from climbing except the grinding. The random teammates will even out, but only with enough games.
It's season 3-4, all over again.
Pseudo Bruiser-Assassin champions in jungle ruling the meta, and only does that not apply to Ivern, whom is the impossible to balance Counter Jungle king.
You're irrelevant when a Bruiser Shaco, Elise or Lee Sin drives by your lane for a 2v1.
I'm currently gold. I made it to mid plat last season. I'm salty because I was matched with a Silver 5 Lee Sin who went 3/11 and couldn't/wouldn't gank.
And you have the ADC who knows how to kite, and won't continuously overextend if behind.
What you meant to say was
*as long as your bottom lane is not the one going 0-10 coming out of laning phase
All I know is, as a long time top main, when I came back to top lane this season after a season or two of not playing top, I was getting wrecked almost every game no matter my champion.
I soon realized it's because I've always played aggressive top, and nowadays every. single. fucking. jungler. ganks. at level. 3.
So I stopped pushing my wave and stopped being aggressive early, and waddaya know; I'm climbing now from s5 to s1 in a few days. Hopefully Gold on this account by the end of the week. (I don't even wanna touch my other Gold account, lest I accidentally get a losing streak or something and drop that one out of Gold too).