Garen needs some serious buffs

Sharkmanx101x·8/14/2016, 10:42:31 PM·4 votes·1,162 views

Garen needs some love, now more then ever. Its sad to see such an old champ, who even got a rework, be left out in the dust simply because his counter part does his job so much better.

Darius has been the only juggernaut that sees play, and even bans, since that update. D-man has a much better teamfight, and simply better cc.

Before the rework, darius wasnt that overpowering, and garen could even go toe to toe with him. Even with the reworks, darius and garen were somewhat equal, given the nerfs and buffs they received.

Then the preseason keystones came out, and Garen slowly started losing a commanding presence toplane. Darius, with an AoE heal, a minu blitz grab, and a reuseable ult, is just a much better pick these days, and he uses keystones more efficently. GotU better synergies with Darius then it does with Garen. I have a few ideas to get Garen back into the game, and once again to be able to stand toe to toe with Darius once again.

Passive: Make it unpopable after lvl 16. No matter what damage he takes, his passive stays up. It will seem less useless past 40+mins into a game

Q: Revert the q nerfs. IMO, it was the only unnessecary thing that happened to him when he was reworked.

W: Return the crowd control buff, but have it scale with rank 10/15/20/25/30%

E: Get rid of the bonus damage from crit, since IE Garen is a thing of the past, and make each tick heal him for 1% if his max hp, but only when damaging enemy champions. Or have it apply lifesteal, or be able to proc frozen mallet

R: Given Garen a permanent buff when ever he kills the Villain. 5/10/15 ar+mr and 50/75/100 hp per rank. This would create a better dynamic for both teams, as would contesting the Villain would make Garen a much larger threat if he keeps killing the Villian. But he must kill the Villain with his ult. The bonuses cant be gained if he kills the Villian any other way Or have have nearby enemy units get knockedup for 0.5/.75/1 sec. In a 500/750/1000 unit radius when the Villain is slain with Garen's ult. For such a visually impressive ult, it doesnt seem that imprresive once used. This will Garen more cc, but leave it situational so it doesnt seem overbearing.

These are a few thoughta on what i think will help Garen out, and hopefully see him in toplane once again. If you have any thoughts, feel free to share them below.

13 Comments

Jeddite8/14/2016, 10:48:09 PM2 votes

Garen does not need buffs, serious or otherwise.

**Sharkmanx101x'**s ability to post sh!tty threads could stand to be nerfed, though.

SwiftKitten888/14/2016, 10:44:00 PM1 votes

no... not unless you get rid of his silence...

Aatrox Mid 1v58/14/2016, 10:55:27 PM1 votes

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Garen needs some love, now more then ever. Its sad to see such an old champ, who even got a rework, be left out in the dust simply because his counter part does his job so much better.

Darius has been the only juggernaut that sees play, and even bans, since that update. D-man has a much better teamfight, and simply better cc.

Before the rework, darius wasnt that overpowering, and garen could even go toe to toe with him. Even with the reworks, darius and garen were somewhat equal, given the nerfs and buffs they received.

Then the preseason keystones came out, and Garen slowly started losing a commanding presence toplane. Darius, with an AoE heal, a minu blitz grab, and a reuseable ult, is just a much better pick these days, and he uses keystones more efficently. GotU better synergies with Darius then it does with Garen. I have a few ideas to get Garen back into the game, and once again to be able to stand toe to toe with Darius once again.

Passive: Make it unpopable after lvl 16. No matter what damage he takes, his passive stays up. It will seem less useless past 40+mins into a game

Q: Revert the q nerfs. IMO, it was the only unnessecary thing that happened to him when he was reworked.

W: Return the crowd control buff, but have it scale with rank 10/15/20/25/30%

E: Get rid of the bonus damage from crit, since IE Garen is a thing of the past, and make each tick heal him for 1% if his max hp, but only when damaging enemy champions. Or have it apply lifesteal, or be able to proc frozen mallet

R: Given Garen a permanent buff when ever he kills the Villain. 5/10/15 ar+mr and 50/75/100 hp per rank. This would create a better dynamic for both teams, as would contesting the Villain would make Garen a much larger threat if he keeps killing the Villian. But he must kill the Villain with his ult. The bonuses cant be gained if he kills the Villian any other way Or have have nearby enemy units get knockedup for 0.5/.75/1 sec. In a 500/750/1000 unit radius when the Villain is slain with Garen's ult. For such a visually impressive ult, it doesnt seem that imprresive once used. This will Garen more cc, but leave it situational so it doesnt seem overbearing.

These are a few thoughta on what i think will help Garen out, and hopefully see him in toplane once again. If you have any thoughts, feel free to share them below.

Gayren is not doing bad at all. he just naturally falls off during the late game because of his strong laning phase. Yes thats right, i said Gayren.

Zane Zephyr8/14/2016, 10:55:58 PM1 votes

Do you not understand how much regen garen can get late game? With spirit visage and Warmogs alone it easily climbs to 200+ PER SECOND. There's absolutely NO reason why it should stay constant. He can get 400+/sec plus late game and he would literally be unkillable.

THEN YOU WANT TO ADD MORE HEALING WITH HIS E?! Are you mad?

Garen isn't played often because his kit is simplistic and easily abused. It's literally boils down to "run at your face and press buttons"

Calabok8/15/2016, 12:07:30 AM1 votes

no he is fine

Warmanreaper8/15/2016, 12:29:21 AM1 votes

I believe the only buff he should get is a buff when fighting darius , so they are on even playing fields since they're rivals.