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PSA: Stop whining about ping, it literally doesn't matter

Häßlich·9/4/2015, 8:07:55 AM·6 votes·2,053 views

I had 7-12 ping before the Chicago move and now it's 60-72, but guess what? It doesn't matter! At all. That's literally 6% of a second--nobody has reflexes fast enough to tell the difference. What's really holding you back is you: your own reaction times, poor decision making, and bad teamwork. I could give you a more full explanation, but I think it's kind of pointless since the people who whine about this kind of thing are just looking for any excuse to protect their pride from their own mistakes. Instead, I'll just remind you that there are TONS of other factors that go into all this:

-normal human reaction time -difference between ping and lag -causes of lag aren't always related to your connection -new servers may just be unstable, and that's a whole other topic -you may be bad at LoL (it's not an insult, someone has to lose) -your opponent may be better (blasphemy, I know) -sometimes you can get hit by "hidden power" that some champions have (Maokai's/Nocturne's passive, for example)

Simply put, if you are doing poorly it is nothing to do with ping. The only way you could really tell a difference is if it went up by at least 100, and most people's ping actually went down. The truth hurts, I know...

48 Comments

TheXtractor9/4/2015, 8:26:08 AM4 votes

I bet you are someone who also argues that 30 fps doesn't matter compared to 60-120 fps :').

Faded Lich9/4/2015, 8:28:59 AM4 votes

Just here to get downvoted for supporting and loving the move. 170 ping down to 65-60 ping. Feels good man.

Blastumz9/4/2015, 8:42:05 AM3 votes

If it would stay at 90 it'd be fine, but it bounces to 200. Once every 20-45 seconds. Projectiles disappear, teamfights pause, champions run in place. It's unplayable.

Baby Ghoul9/4/2015, 8:09:28 AM3 votes

60-72 is a really good ping.

There are so many people here that would kill for that post move.

Agraajag9/4/2015, 8:25:54 AM3 votes

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I had 7-12 ping before the Chicago move and now it's 60-72, but guess what? It doesn't matter! At all. That's

I had 65 pre-move and that was not too bad.

literally 6% of a second--nobody has reflexes fast enough to tell the difference. What's really holding you back is you: your own reaction times, poor decision making, and bad teamwork. I could give you a more full explanation, but I think it's kind of pointless since the people who whine about this kind of thing are just looking for any excuse to protect their pride from their own mistakes. Instead, I'll just remind you that there are TONS of other factors that go into all this:

You sound pretty troll so it's probably not worth arguing but... In epee fencing, the double-hit lockout time is 50 ms. In other words, if players hit each other within 50 ms they each score a point. And it happens constantly. There are more double than single hits in many bouts. So you're completely wrong about human reflexes in general. With training 50 ms can easily become significant.

LoL actually has lots in common with epee. You dance back and forth trying to bait your opponent into making an unwise attack, and once they do it and miss you get to hit them. You know all the situations I'm talking about here.

Simply put, if you are doing poorly it is nothing to do with ping. The only way you could really tell a difference is if it went up by at least 100, and most people's ping actually went down. The truth hurts, I know...

According to you, you've never played at 100+ ping, so how would you know if there's a threshold between 70 and 100 that makes a big difference? The truth is I've played exactly 1 game since server move. There's no way I'm going to subject myself to more of that. It does hurt, but not in the way you think. I loved the game and am sad that I won't be playing anymore.

That said DoTA2 looks pretty damn good and they have a west coast server with my old ping time.

Slamurai Jack9/4/2015, 9:31:04 AM2 votes

There is an absolutely enormous difference from going from 10 to 60 ping and going from 60 to 110 ping. Like an absolutely massive, monumental difference. It's like the difference between going from 60 FPS to 30 FPS and going from 30 FPS to 15 FPS. In the case of ping, going up by quite a bit doesn't matter so long as you stay below a certain threshold; let's say 80 since that's where Riot set their goal. As long as your ping is below that number, you won't really have to change how you play the game to account for that latency. But once you start getting to 90+ ping, it legitimately affects how you have to play this game. On the occasion that my ping is that high, I just won't play certain champions like Yasuo because the latency is just too high to play the game in a truly reactive manner.

redniwediS9/4/2015, 8:16:20 AM1 votes

Some people can tell the difference, however it's not possible to react to something within that span of time. It's a minor point, and it doesn't really effect your main argument, but it's one I felt like pointing out.

mfknlwig9/4/2015, 10:13:57 AM1 votes

dont matter cuz yer not pro. even if u were an yer at a tournment use lan ports so 0ping anyways

Mecha MaIphite9/4/2015, 10:45:10 AM1 votes

Yes it does. I used to land every single alistar combo and now I miss half of them because I think there's lag and press Q too early. Same with Jax QW, I press W to early and empower my q instead of my aa.

HolyCrapItsMe9/4/2015, 10:51:07 AM1 votes

Well yeah, but if my ping (which usually goes from 90-120) suddenly becomes 700-12000 (yes ive been there, and more) I might feel a bit of a difference, especially when it starts being a 0.5 second delay (leaving me 0.25 seconds to deal with a veigar stun, duh) or, sometimes, a 25 second delay, which is a bit more bareable, since by the time a I catch up all the skillshots have gone past and ive already respawned and ready to die again, so everything is great. (not to mention all cooldowns are instantly refreshed, yay! :D)

1 800 MID LANE9/4/2015, 11:43:32 AM1 votes

I live in Iowa and I can tell only a very minute difference. Considering the average human reaction time is 215ms, a change of 40ms is noticeable. It's not much, and honestly, I don't see why people are complaining either, but it is slightly noticeable. These are only technicalities, as it's had zero effect on my gameplay. I still suck.

5050BS1/9/2020, 8:35:45 PM1 votes

7 ping compared to 60 ping does not matter because human reaction is basically that.

60 ping to 100 ping is MASSIVE and the 60 ping player will win if evenly skilled.