this is so retarded even adc's can dive full health targets now
cc doesnt matter when you cc the target and he takes 10 hits to the face at 6 and kill you anyway
ontop of that im behind a wave of minions getting auto'd attacked in melee i fight back and his minions run past mine and shred my hp forcing me to back
yes im tilted.
But I love it when an assassin dives me and loses maybe 10% of their health to it before killing me.
ADC's can not dive full health targets and 10 hits is exaggerating man. If Rito buffed the towers we would get a bunch of posts like we used to saying "nerf the towers they're too freaking strong i die in two hits."
I'm having Mundos chase me into Inhibitor Turrets when I haven't even lost my Tier 1.
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Towers do more damage now than they ever have in the past. Seriously, take a look at their patch history. There have only been damage increases. If AD carries can dive full health targets now (and they can't), then they could have done it better in the past.
The damage towers do is fine. They aren't perfectly safe. There is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe if we had other means of making turrets more dangerous or challenging. Perhaps upgrades like black market which you have to spend gold on.
Like buy a special ability for a line of towers, like inhibitor towers all get item x which limits mobility. You can dash into, but not out of, blocks 1 dash then there is a 20 second cooldown for example. Buying this makes towerdiving more difficult. Just an idea.
But how else can I level 2 all-in under (their) tower?
4Lyfe
agreed towers shoudl do more damage
minions are more dangerous then towers
ALL Outter Turrets should get the following 200% increased defense + magic defense 2000 extra HP Damage increased by 20% and should ignore target defense
ALL Inner and Base Turrets + inhibitors & Nexus should receive the following 200% increased defense + magic defense 3000 extra HP Base Turrets should be able to target more than ONE target (up to 5) Inhibitors re-spawn time reduced to 1 minute and 45 seconds (ACE's must be scored #troll-face) Nexus can root enemy minions and champions for 10 seconds per 15% hp lost (100% chance, resistances nor passives will help here)
These right here proves MORE of a challenge, and will make matches MORE team orientated. You get a lot of trolls that come in, roam the map, steal your kills, or think they can rush the lane their in only to find out the whole enemy teams waiting for them. I'm sure those of you in ranked have ran into issues like this...but that's beyond the point.
What will this do to ranked and standard pvp matches? Make them too long and tedious? Naw. Just means you'll have to create a strategy in order to deal with the turrets and the other team in the process. It's kinda sad that it takes no more than like 15 minutes to clear a lane TO BASE with an unfed ADC or AP...you all know what i'm talking about.
Having these buffs put on turrets and the likes, means what? MORE STRATEGY! Not runnin' solo like alot of top laner's like to do. So...think about it.
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I was once caught up in a bad position when invading as Kindred. I was Level 7 and tried to suicide to the inhibitor tower to get execute and deny gold. It was so weak it didn't kill me in time and the enemy caught up with me and killed me.
I'm just throwing this out there and not trying to force this on anything but, What if Towers did true damage or ignored armor? Do they already do that? What about them leveling up with the team like the dragon? Just suggestions that will maybe make it less easy for level 3 dives.
i feel like first tower is fine, but the secondary towers are very weak, often a wave of about 15 minions can destroy it on its own(or at least nearly).
Early game they melt you. You cant take more than 2-3 shots from a turret, or you'll die. Unless you have a tank who tanks it, with some armor and health. Other than that, an adc cant really dive in and "kill" the target. Unless your so low, and overextending, that you don't recall, and you have 1-aa to 2-aa hitpoints left. Obviously late game turrets arent suppose to instagib you to death. Despite that, they actual do tons of damage, and carries cant tank it in late game team fights. Which they arent even suppose to do. Only tank that I can think of that is just retarded is mundo, he can solo a full hp turret while taking damage...
you are a bit off and no we should not buff towers
You think ADCs diving towers are bad? You haven't seen the power of assassins.
I think the community as a whole agrees with you. I really hope they buff them up soon, not only offensively, but defensively
I bet you ain't even full health? Maybe you should be warding? Why do you think it's safe to stay under tower with a minion wave pushing? Is it not obvious what the enemy is doing or moving?
I know not many think how you're setting yourself up for a dive. I see it a lot when I play ranked. Normals I tend to take it more easy.
Riot: Nah man, turrets are fine man. They still do hella damage doe, especially on non-tanky champions!
Me: Really Riot....?
At least we don't have Dota towers.
Been this way for a long time sadly, and I've been pointing it out for years; I forget who said it, and I laughed when I'd seen them call towers, laser-pointers.
