Support Item Change Please

Peter Kwon·9/13/2014, 11:45:31 PM·2 votes·1,007 views

Mikael's Crucible= Forbidden Idol +Chalice of Harmony

Ardent Censer= Aether Wisp+ Forbidden Idol

Talisman of Ascension= Nomad's Medallion+Forbidden Idol

So, as someone who really likes playing Janna, do you see the problem here? I'd love to have all 3 of these items in a build but that means I have like +9000 mana regen. I would have to buy 3 forbidden idols which basically do not boots my stats in any way shape, 3 times! That is so much gold wasted. A: Janna doesn't really have manna problems to begin with and B: lets assume I got chalice, BAM mana for days.

I think mostly a change to the Ardent Censer build would be great. Replace with Forbidden Idol with..... i dno a ruby crystal lol anything. I'm sure there is a better item but I'll leave that for you guys to figure out.

10 Comments

Duke Anax9/14/2014, 5:34:09 AM2 votes

Let's see, you don't have to build these exact items, there is at least one alkternative for each:

Janna is a support mage, so how about taking frostqueen? Talisman probably is the better choice though. But how about getting frostfang then building something else entirely?

If you think it would be enough regen even without mana font, then how about getting Locket instead of Mikael?

Is Ardent censer really that good on Jenna? Aside from her ult, she only has a singular shield. How about Shadows instead?

Catfish0179/13/2014, 11:56:22 PM1 votes

If you think Janna doesn't have mana problems, you should probably do more than just shield your carry.

Deep Terror Nami9/14/2014, 1:35:08 AM1 votes

If the stats are too much waste, just get something else. You don't always have to get Ardent Censer; only when you have several AA based ADC's like a mid Tristana. Besides, Forbidden Idol only upgrades into 4 things, what you listed + Morellonomicon. You can look at Fiendish Codex in the same way, and see that it upgrades into a total of 9 different things; in the event of that, you can make a case against CDR overload.

If you're only speaking from a Janna perspective, what about all the other supports who might not normally build all 3 of those things (or even other Janna's who don't)?

TL;DR - If your build path has far too much MP5, change your build for something more useful.

Kynami9/14/2014, 1:48:29 AM1 votes

Honestly... I'd personally rather have Ardent Censor build out of an Aether Wisp and Seeker's Armguard. Yes it would boost the end cost a bit (Probably to 2400-2500ish), but it would actually be a darn sight more useful to the support too if it packed 50 AR and 75 AP in addition to the speed and shield/heal bonus effect passives.

Support items are a little too blessed with CDR and MP/5 currently. Need some better defensive choices with higher AP scaling given the ratios most supports now have.

Peter Kwon9/14/2014, 3:16:25 AM1 votes

the point is i just think its a very viable build path (minus the mega mana regen) for a lot of supports and maybe switching around some items might make it more viable.