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I now know why NA Jungle is the reason why NA is the worst region.

Low Effort·6/2/2017, 1:41:59 AM·5 votes·1,231 views

My name is Low Effort and I dance between Diamond 5 and Diamond 2. Not the best, certainly not the worst. I am an Marksmen main who's skill is focused primarily at positioning in teamfights, so my early game is rather weak. As a result, I generally require 1 to 2 ganks early on in order to actually be viable pre-25 minutes. But I have recently run into a reoccurring theme that has been intriguing me: the "anchor" theory. i have watched Korean vods and listened to European junglers and, in each situation, I find that the anchor theory is not a thing in any region other than NA.

What is an "anchor"? It's a concept that our own trashy NA jungle mains believe in where they focus and camp a single lane that contains an assassin or a strong bruiser who can, potentially eliminate the opposing marksmen in a later game fight. However, from my experience, that just means that, unless you win by a certain point, you are putting everyone else on your team behind and you will eventually, regardless of the scaling of your champions, LOSE THE END GAME. This leads to a lot of blame on the jungler. "He didn't gank me once in lane, he didn't apply pressure anywhere and we lost all dragons". And then it's considered your fault that you went 0/3 in lane due to numerous ganks and roams from the opposing jungler and midlaner. But it's ironic: when I play jungle, although I'm not skilled at the routing and ganking, I find myself winning the majority of games since I follow the Korean and European mentality of "OPPORTUNITY". This means you don't endlessly gank one lane. You gank one lane and let it snowball by itself. And then you see bot lane is pushing up, so you gank that lane and get them a kill. Even though I'm a terrible jungler, the fact that I help all lanes get ahead makes it so I win in numerous situations.

This is a message I give to all NA junglers: if you are losing a game and one of your lanes is begging for a gank and then blames you for losing, guess the frick what. It's your fault that you lost.

I'd love to hear what other players think in regards to this because I have never heard anyone except for junglers argue my point on trashy NA junglers being the bane of our region.

Thanks for reading guys. I'd love to hear what you think down below.

31 Comments

Warhammer Titan6/2/2017, 1:44:10 AM5 votes

if you are losing a game and one of your lanes is begging for a gank and then blames you for losing, guess the frick what. It's your fault that you lost.

Top laner feeds darius 20 kills "GANK ME PLEASE" - Automatic Junglers fault

PeelDpotato6/2/2017, 1:56:14 AM2 votes

It's a combination of some junglers not creating pressure and some laners not reading lane pressure correctly.Your idea is inherently flawed as it assumes everyone jungle main does this, and by extension, always loses which isn't the case.Also you're a platinum player, and have never been in diamond dummy.

BigBellBrute6/2/2017, 3:36:26 AM2 votes

SKT's jungler camps one lane on several occasions and they've done alright.

Puttyblo6/2/2017, 2:41:17 AM2 votes

You seem to forget that KR in general has a much better lane phase + in general top lane compared to NA. This indirectly makes junglers naturally face problems.

If you look at vods of d+ KR games the top lane macro compared to NA is night and day pre 15- mins. This creates a lot more consistent play on the junglers end. What NA does have compared to KR is much better mid-late game macro. HOWEVER jungling is heavily early game centered, so that doesn't matter too much in the world of jungling.

It's honestly pretty rare in KR for Riven to lock in into their hard counter and then go 0/10/1 in lane, and it's because that player will basically sign themselves up to be permanently shamed. You can see this pretty regularly even in Cowseps stream where he's regularly trash talked and flamed just for picking Yi and he basically has to power gank nonstop or they'll instantly bm the fuck out of him. What this does is create a lot more opportunities for junglers to do things which makes them stand out a lot more.

In Korea if I go on someone as say Kindred . . . that person is 80% chance going to get locked down and die, and then they'll pretty much outright win the lane from there on out. In NA my top laner will probably just twirl around under his turret then flash into enemy turret and die stupidly 8 times, even in D2. So, if you really want something to complain about. It's the fact that our top lane is literally a meme across the globe.

WalkingInACircle6/2/2017, 2:58:46 AM2 votes

I follow the Korean and European mentality of "OPPORTUNITY"

YES.

Me too, on the rare occassion I jungle. Ganks are generally the most effective thing a jungler can do, and should be done when they will be successful. Not as a plan to camp one specific lane but across the map to exert pressure everywhere. But before even this, you have to get junglers of the mindset that ganks = good. Cuz lots of NA junglers give that same weak crap: "its not muh responsibility to do things".

General Esdeath 6/2/2017, 2:24:14 AM2 votes

To be honest, I feel this is partially true. I hate the "I only help winning lanes" mentality because

A) If they're winning they don't need you, just watch for a chance to counter gank B) In lower elo there's no guarantee your winning lane will carry, in higher elo the enemy laner that's behind knows how to play safe and call pings to stop roaming.

JhomasTefferson6/2/2017, 2:28:59 AM2 votes

Sometimes, no ganks are appropriate. If every lane is losing, and you fear getting 1v2'd or counterganked, your best bet is to ward objectives and farm up. Defend towers if their jg shows or one of the laners roams to help push one down, or if your laners die, but, in general, passive play is sometimes the way to go on it.

Sometimes, the best thing to do is play around the winning lane. If your brand mid gets a kill early, snowball that shit. Camp it. Ideally brand will carry the game. Now, in this situation, if the enemy overextends in another lane, of course you're gonna want to gank there, but, don't try to force plays anywhere but mid, or whichever lane is fed.

Sometimes, your jg may be counterjungling and shutting down the enemy jg, not giving too much attention to lanes unless a juicy opportunity presents itself, while a laner is getting absolutely deep dicked by his lane opponent who will probably turn and kill the jg who tries to help his feeding teammate Darius Teemo come to mind.

Sometimes the jg can't gank because the laner who he'd gank for is too low and would probably be killed as soon as he engages to start the gank, leaving the jg to 1v1 a fed laner.

Sometimes junglers just can't get into your lane cuz you're right at river. That leaves you safe, but, it also leaves the enemy laner safe too depending on what side of the map youre on. The lee sin or hecarim might be able to dive around thru their tribush and tank a tower shot or two, and fiddle zac can jump over the wall by blue side tribush, but, not every jg can. You as the laner will either have to let them push or push into their tower when your jg is on your side of the map and ping for a countergank or ward up and play passive to try to get the lane to rebound and then freeze by your tower.

And, sometimes, it's absolutely on the jg, like you said. This is just from my perspective as a jg main. Sometimes they just get outganked and dont do anything anywhere else on the map, just farm up and ignore stuff.

TonsOfGains6/2/2017, 2:12:43 AM1 votes

First off, I'm just going to point out the fact that if you can't hold your lane despite your teammates (jungler included) failing their supposed responsibilities left and right then you're not carrying. If you can't contribute beyond your own weight, or even meet your own weight, then you don't deserve to rise above the level you're at. This is the fundamental nature of the ranked system.

Second, I'm going to point out that you're likely losing due to your egotistical attitude and not your jungler. As a team game where you're playing alongside REAL people, you should expect that each human being will contribute in whatever way they believe is best. Your jungler has every right to determine what he/she can do best for the team, whether that's farm the jungle all game or gank only one lane. Keep in mind that it is in your biased experiences where you fail when the jungler doesn't babysit you. In the jungler's biased experiences, they succeed whenever they use the so-called "anchor".

Thirdly, as someone who has consistently played every role except support for the past 8 years and only switched to jungle in the most recent 2 years, I can tell you that winning your lane is much easier than carrying the team from the jungle. The bare minimum in your job as a lane is simple, especially a two-man lane - don't die. An extreme example I always refer to is that if you maintain distance, focus on farm and avoid taking damage it is virtually impossible to successfully gank you (unless of course, you don't belong in your division). That's it, it's simple. On the other hand, a jungler is faced with constant decisions - gank, farm, objectives? And each of those objectives come with sub-decisions - which lane? Which camp/route? When?

Lastly, if you take a look at my profile and replays you'll find that my duo (brother) and I do not belong in our current division. Our climb rate and performance each game demonstrates that. Further, our strategy involves myself ganking his lane more frequently than others. He's actually helping me with a research project where we're quantifying the relationships between different explicit metrics in in-game performance. One of these is the snowball effect. The gist of the research so far is that each point of gold above the average results in exponentially better performance. Therefore, snowballing one champion/lane while leaving the others to fend for themselves is most likely to yield the best results. All that needs to occur is that the rate of income for the one ally is greater than the rate of death of each other lane individually. That's not much to ask.

EDIT: If anyone would like more info about the research and its rationale, feel free to reply to this comment about it.

Darth Sidiouss6/2/2017, 2:06:35 AM1 votes

Opportunity is the key word to follow when playing jungle you have to seize and recognize EVERY fking opportunity and most of all plan ahead of potential threats. Jungle is just so important in winning right now its crazy. Thats how i became a jungle main i got so sick and tired of my jungler wasting OPPORTUNITIES that i always saw.

As far as ganking goes EVERYONE has to understand you cant be everywhere at once and even if you know where the enemy jungler IS you CANNOT always be around as you have your own gold and exp to acquire as well as success in ganking a lane. Counter ganking is good but can come at a price from other enemy rotations. The problem is communication such as your allies not knowing when your going to do a specific clear in route to a specific lane or not knowing just HOW delayed the gank will be. If the laners know your a good jungle already its much easier for them to read your movements on the map and their patience as well.

If you feel like your jungle is holding back your games consider mastering the jungle lane.