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ADC items should be as expensive as bruisers item

Dremiist·5/29/2018, 4:11:10 AM·2 votes·2,401 views

here's Yasuo TOP lane,building both ADC and bruiser items.

not only it's faster for him to complete his build

he also get 100% crit chance

then grab item 3022 item 3053 + his passive giving him a shield summoner 21

complete his build faster than you because he have no mana he can stay there forever farming spamming knockup clearing the wave.

have more shield than any other bruisers in the game

100% crits

1 second cooldown on his Q based on his attack speed a bunch of knock up unlimited dash if the yasuo is smart he build a item 3026 and dash away. could also build item 3812 and miltigate even more damage through his shield. not only he's a hyper carry, if you build him right he's tough to kill and get's to complete his items faster than you and beat almost all the TOP and MID laners late game.

his wall counter every ranged abilities. very good for team fights his Q can knock up a bunch of people. very good in team fights

let's not forget item 3046 miltigate even more damage with item 3812 and if the support cast item 3109 you guessed right! miltigate even more damage!

and I repeat : no mana forever laning spamming shielding and dashing.

item 3046 item 3031 item 3047 item 3022 item 3053 item 3026

or item 3046 item 3031 item 3047 item 3022 item 3053 item 3812

ADC items are less expensive , and with the gold nerf still less expansive than bruiser but stronger late game because of the true damage and the cooldown from the new essence reaver item.

22.97% in the entire world plays Yasuo 1 person out of 5 plays Yasuo , #2 in popularity after Ezreal

Please go on and downvote me, yasuo mains.

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Next patch there will be alot of changes to adc items and price increases https://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

I do have a PBE account buddy.

https://youtu.be/eYCgu1nmFqM https://youtu.be/1UhDXO1C6GQ

I think vayne just going to be fun to play,for me at least, I'm not saying it's optimal but I'm going to enjoy doing it.

I'm going to play a bunch of PBE game as ADC and figure out what I really think about.

the gold nerf is a nerf it's undeniable but the item change i'm actually liking it,it's different. if I play adc I might enjoy it more destroying tank with 100% crit chance and 15% true damage from I.E , that's how i feel.

well the 900 gold nerf on statikk pd and IE that's 6 wave of CS that's 3 more minute so all you gotta is wait 3 more minute to complete them. which i don't mind. it's not much of a big deal and ADC items are still less expensive than bruisers items.

we just gonna have to wait to find out what the pro korean will build , but i'm sure they'll figure out something

maybe conqueror because it's easy to proc as a ranged champion all you gotta is right click right like 90% comes from your auto attack, hit the minon stack it up and boom big damage or some champion like cait that doesn't have much of an issue due to her massive range. idk but conqueror and ie is going to be a really nice combo + lord dominik and most of your damage go though tanks and stuff like that...

45 Comments

saltran5/29/2018, 4:26:04 AM4 votes

Okay now give adcs the power spikes that bruisers have with 1 item.

Or you think that an adc with 1 item is in a similar lvl of strenght that a bruiser with Trinity/BCleaver?

Potchikir5/29/2018, 4:15:52 AM2 votes

Next patch there will be alot of changes to adc items and price increases https://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html

Warlord Rhinark5/29/2018, 6:56:30 AM2 votes

This seems more like a hit on Yasuo than on ADCS.

PANAGIA PARTHENA5/29/2018, 10:35:10 AM2 votes

So that's what delusions are like.

PhDs Nuts5/29/2018, 5:34:34 AM2 votes

ITT people don't understand gold efficiency or power spikes.

Or the difference between Yasuo and ADCs apparently.

PhDs Nuts5/29/2018, 5:46:11 AM2 votes

Bruisers don't scale well? This combo item 3053 item 3078 is the strongest item synergy in the game, which is why it's being nerfed. Bruisers dominate the mid game if they get ahead. Irelia, Jax, Camille, and Fiora are monsters mid-late game. Yorick can't be stopped without sending 2-3 people after him.

Herald Est Mors5/29/2018, 6:46:25 AM2 votes

baby, your whole argument is invalid because all top lane "tanks" or "bruisers" are op, and Yasuo is a braindead champion that anybody that has hit lvl 30 in the game can pick up and learn in a matter of games. no skill champ combined with braindead kit and protections, nerf Yasuo to the ground, make the game a happier place.

woodvsmurph5/29/2018, 5:27:24 AM1 votes

Arguably they should be MORE expensive. More because they scale better and they aren't sacrificing a ton early to get that. Crit - doubles the value of all other items in your build and any aa-enhancing abilities you have for the most part too. Melee other than yasuo or trynd can't really afford those items though because they actually have to think about survivability/tankiness. Due to the fact they will almost certainly eat a bunch of damage in order to get in range to do their damage, they can't go glass cannon so easily or if they do, they either cannot teamfight or need an ally and probably flash to be able to teamfight effectively. Due to range and often high mobility - even lower mobility adc's have a ton of movespeed thanks to crit movespeed bonus not falling off in combat unlike tank/bruiser movespeed items - they are safe to go far more glass cannon without facing the same threats melee champs not named yasuo and trynd do.

Last whisper upgraded items should be as expensive or more expensive than cleaver.

Zeal item plus i.e. or essence reaver should be more expensive combo than cleaver + sterak by a significant margin.

Zeal item movespeed bonus should be flat amount - comparable to deadman's or ghostblade or it needs to fall off for 10 sec when damage is taken from enemy champions.

Non-attack speed based runes need lower cd's so that melee burst champs who don't want the attack speed from pta or conqueror tree and mages - who don't want to rely on needing cc to make their keystone damage actually hit something or pathetic mid/late game aerie damage matter in a fight. Electrocute was supposed to be that, but unless you're some super safe farming champ mid, a jungler who just looks to burst an opponent or an assassin like zed, you can't really use it. The cd is far too long early for melee toplaners to viably get it. And many mages can't make the greatest use of it early and would get murdered until they can proc it lvl 2 or 3... along with the whole 50 sec their opponent has to abuse a much lower cd keystone and make up for the very minor extra early damage electrocute does. The cd needs to be much shoerter - especially for teamfights. Perhaps making it something more along the lines of 30-40 sec lvl 1 and giving it a reset on kills would go a long way towards making it a more viable option.

VvVVvV5/29/2018, 6:46:26 PM1 votes

What is wrong with this person??

I think im coming here to read a post about top and adc items and it ends up being another aysuo hate thread. Followed by videos of a** level 18 full build Vayne against immobile practice dummies.** Are you seriously trying to use this as proof of a champion being strong?