Alright this is a bit silly, any tips? (Ranked solo que)

Geminicomet··1 votes·510 views

Alright support main here have been for quite a long time. Usually if im ap I can take over a game or if im a true support I make my adc an unstoppable force to be reckoned with but recently it just seems i cant depend on my team to do anything anymore. Crap like my adc will dive turrets on their own, jungler will go to every lane and feed, and for mid and top lane the term "just play safe and hug turret" just isnt in their vocabulary to the point where I'll sometimes have to take it upon myself to gank their lanes (yes even top) and even thats not enough to get them on their feet. Now that isnt to say im without my fault there are some games where I feed all to hell and I'll hold the L but honestly at the risk of soundin arrogant that rarely happens and most of the time the loss comes from my team crumbling while I struggle to hold them together.

Anyway sob story out the way I just need tips on carrying be it "cheesy champs" or just stupid strategies you use that seem to work out when you need to strap the team to your back. My hopes for carrying from the support role is pretty much all but demolished, it can be pretty debilitating to your moral when you shut down two people and try to roam with your lead and you look up and like see an enemy zed 6/0/0 or some stupid situation like that :P

12 Comments

HKT Striker1 votes

What about blitzcrank support? Just land a hook every 2 minutes and hook the enemy mid laner in teamfights , hook the enemy jungler when securing baron/dragon. If you can play other roles, try xin zhao. Don't die early, camp top and mid. Get 1st turret on the top side and then get rift herald to push mid lane. Ignore the bottom side unless the enemy adc sucks early, for example vayne or twitch. If you want a champion for carrying even if your team sucks, I recommend riven. (PS: Don't flame me for saying that) Once you learn her combos and master them (Usually only takes a small loan of 45 hours), you solo carry yourself to high gold, then you start playing team reliant champions, since in high gold you can trust your team.

Geminicomet1 votes

Oh lawd riven she has such a bad reputation from the people that play her lol. But I can see her being a carry monster as well as xin I'll take them into consideration thanks~

obsesse1 votes

My only tip for playing support, in the nicest way I know how to say it:

Buy a fucking sightstone.

Geminicomet1 votes

Yeah not much to say about that one, I do often forgot ss item while relying on trinkets when im trying to stay relevant in team fights. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

obsesse1 votes

Here's the thing, your support damage will usually be irrelevant. Yours shields, stuns, snares, speed ups, vision, etc., will be infinitely more useful. You will always be underfarmed and underleveled as a support. Giving your team vision, roaming with jungler, tracking enemy jungler, these things allow your team to play in a way that's much more conducive to winning. If you want to deal damage and carry fights by killing people, don't play support.

Frightning1 votes

As a support, the best thing you can probably do to help your team win, is figure out who on your team is going to be able to carry the game, and then make sure to be near them as much as possible post-laning phase. Maybe that's your now 4/0 ADC that you crushed lane with, maybe it's your mid laner, maybe your top or jg, doesn't matter who, what matters is that you figure out who it's gonna be, and then support their actions the best you know how to do. (e.g. suppose jg is the fed person who looks to be the one that will carry you; they are hanging bot side jg, dragon is coming up in about a minute. What should you do? Some things to consider: Ward river area with Sightstone and sweep dragon pit area. Take/help them take Rift Scuttler on that side (as much to deny the enemy it as to ensure you get vision/MS AoE from it). Help get bot and mid lanes pushing so that the enemy feels inclined to go to their lanes and shove them back, rather than investigating river area/roaming and happening upon dragon when you're trying to take it. etc.)

obsesse1 votes

This is great advice but DO NOT SHADOW THEM. You are NOT their support! By taking away their solo XP you might actually be hurting your team in the long run.

Frightning2 votes

You still need xp of your own to get levels and remain relevant, and soaking xp from a lane is a great way to get yourself some xp, that said, particularly earlier on (early in post-laning phase), it can be a good idea to not soak xp from your mid and top laners because they tend to get the most benefit from xp (skill ranks=more base damage on your mid laner's abilities; many top laners get similar benefits including base tank stats). You also can't soak xp from the jungle (monster's killer gets all the xp, so just don't KS them).

grug1 votes

maybe put more wards down from time to time to get more information so you can catch people out on rotations because it looks to me like your macro play is complete dogshit. You're just banking on the games devolving into ARAMs and winning via dice-roll teamfights.

Geminicomet1 votes

Harsh criticism but truthful nonetheless to be fair though thats was most silver games devolve into haha, but yeah I could afford to up my macro play.

DemainaNyx1 votes

I personally tend to play AP supports if I have a run of bad teammates.

My unintentional one trick has been Brand since he can pretty much solo win teamfights by proc'ing his passive on multiple people and offers a little bit of what your team might need (CC, wave clear, AP, tank shredding, burst). I've had games as Brand where I had Rylia's, Eye, Redemption, and Locket and some how still did the most damage in the game.

Another good one to try is Vel'Koz for a similar reason as Brand. If you proc his passive and ult, you do true damage to that person. Means even if you have no damage items, you'll still do a ton of damage.

The other way to go is to play overly protective supports. Playing Lulu, Janna , or Soraka can make it incredibly hard for that 6/0 Zed to kill your teammate. Granted, you're really relying on the people you are protecting to carry, which means if they aren't great, then you don't really have anyone to carry.

Geminicomet1 votes

Yeah I may try those, I love my true supports but yeah for that reason I cant really use em often. Theres only so much you can defend when the enemies kills are reachin the double digits :P. I may try brand. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

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