Champion classes should not be defined by being AP or AD

Hemulen Magi·3/6/2020, 12:35:28 AM·1 votes·2,549 views

Not every champion who builds AP or does magic damage should be referred to as a mage. Mordekaiser and Katarina aren't mages just because they build AP. Even Riot officially defines Mordekaiser as a Fighter>Juggernaut and Katarina as a Slayer>Assassin, demonstrating that AP Fighters and AP Assassins do exist. When considering actual gameplay patterns, there are even AP marksmen, such as the following when they build AP/on-hit: Teemo, Neeko, Kennen, Kog'Maw, and Twisted Fate.

Part of the confusion is Riot's fault for even trying to define 'Mage' as one of the champion classes, when it doesn't fit with the rest of the champion classification scheme. 'Mage' is too generic of a term that in common player discussion includes champions in other classes, such as 'CC Mages' that are properly classified as Catchers, 'Utility Mages' that are Enchanters, 'Burst Mages' that are occasionally AP Assassins or AP Divers. It would have made more sense to classify all squishy backline ranged damage dealers as a class named 'Artillery' and divide it into Marksmen (most ADCs, but some AP/On-Hit DPS dealers) and Casters (most APC mages, but some very skill-shot oriented AD champions, such as Ezreal, could be considered either AD Casters or hybrid Marksmen/Casters).

There are some other issues with Riot's classification scheme, like Divers, Skirmishers, and Assassins all overlap too much in gameplay, but that's another discussion.

Fighters: durable damage dealers Tanks: durable utility sources Controllers: high-target-access utility sources Slayers: high-target-access (mobility/stealth) damage dealers Artillery: high-target-access (ranged) damage dealers

Any of the above can be AD or AP, magic damage or physical damage, just as a tank can build either armor or magic resistance and can be anti-physical or anti-magical.

8 Comments

Eedat3/6/2020, 12:50:59 AM2 votes

Champion classes should not be defined by being AP or AD

They arent defined like that at all. People who have zero grasp of the basic fundamentals of desisn and balance do that

LanceTheJungler3/6/2020, 1:33:53 AM1 votes

Bruiser Tank Assassin Mage Marksmen

BAM perfect champion classification.

Ofc theirs subclasses being...

Bruiser juggernauts ( juggernauts that scale with damage, Darius, Mordekaiser, Sett )

Normal Bruisers

Skirmishers ( bruisers that build mostly damage but arent assassins like Trynd Yasuo Yi )

Peel Tanks

Engage Tanks

Tank juggernauts ( juggernauts that scale with health or only levels, Trundle, Volibear )

AP assassin

AD assassin

Burst Mage

Battle Mage

Control Mage

Artillery Mage

Enchanter

Onhit Marksmen

Crit Marksmen

Toxic Teeto3/6/2020, 1:49:54 AM1 votes

What? You telling me riven isn't a mage??

steven45474663/6/2020, 1:55:30 AM1 votes

Teemo is defined by riot as an assassin or marksman

https://oliy.is-just-a.dev/fywpi8_3022.png

Neeko is not a marksman, ever.

Kennen is a marksman

https://oliy.is-just-a.dev/edp2cg_3023.png

Kog'Maw is a marksman

https://oliy.is-just-a.dev/rp83gs_3024.png

Twisted Fate is also not a marksman. I'm not sure why you'd ever class tf or neeko as marksmen.

Jarring3/6/2020, 3:19:54 AM1 votes

first of all, you have to understand where the game came from. AD is normal... it's what the power scaling in general is based off of.

Attack Power was implemented to give scaling power to champion classes that use spells rather than attacks.

That's all it is. It's fine the way it is, and it shouldn't be changed.

Dota's "Intelligence" "Agility" and "Strength" scaling heroes are more logically sound and balanced across the board, but League was built from the ground up to be more accessible to a growing player base new to mobas, and AP in all honesty, is actually genius in that regard.