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Riot plz NEVER autofill A Jungler

DragoniteDD·9/3/2017, 3:51:13 AM·4 votes·633 views
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Jger needs extremely different game knowledge, any autofill role can make disasters if they dont have the role knowledge, particularly jger. If jger gets autofilled, pretty much the game is over. Check your database to see if this is true, check the winrate for autofill jgers, and the dodge rate, etc.

Top bot mid at least share some lane knowledge (though its yet quite different), but not as little as a jger, especially when u change the jg so much this season. New jgers just doesn't have any clue how a longer cd for camps affects the game, why and when to make invades, when to gank and when to farm, how to control jg visions and how to interact with laners according to their wave position. or even the farming path in jg.

There is just so much unique knowledge for jgers to know to play a regular game, and they have the most potential to carry/ruin the game as a single role in the current meta.

So plz, never autofill a JGer, or at least let others know the jger is autofilled so we can dodge to save both time and LP.

Thanks.

9 Comments

DragoniteDD9/3/2017, 5:12:53 AM4 votes

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People say that ADC's are what determine the outcome of a game now, thus those who help that role thrive, jungle being one of them, support being another. By that logic, I can also say that support is a crucial role that should never be auto filled because it directly affects how well your ADC will affect the map. Also, the ADC is such a crucial role, being given the weight of the outcome of the game on their shoulders. In turn, top is also quite the vital role, as if they don't know what they're doing, they get snowballed. That's a fact. And guess where that fed top goes next? Team fights, which they'll be at an advantage in.

Every lane is played different in a world that feels like it's stuck to a meta, thus forcing unique knowledge on every role. The best way to get a better knowledge about your lane and how others perceive you in your lane is to play multiple roles. That way you get to see that role being done from a different perspective, what you like about what that person did, and what you think could be improved. That doesn't happen if the only role you ever play is the same role you've always played.

Would you dodge if you knew that your support was auto filled? What about your ADC? Mid? Top? Why or why not? Why would you assume that someone doesn't know how to play jungle if they were auto filled into that role?

No offense but you two were about silver to gold level, where mechanics dominates the game but not game knowledge. The game hasn't really began to be a strategic game at that level.

To be more straight, (still, no offense), silver, gold or even plats don't even know why jungler is so much different, and why it requires unique game knowledge. You need to do inference almost the entire game. e.g. Where is the enemy jger now? What's his strategy? Is he/she strong at this time point? Can I fight him in the river now? If I fight him in the jg, will my teammate or his/her teammate come earlier? When will the camps be refreshed? Shall I invade now? When shall I farm and when shall I gank? Shall I gank top? When did enemy top place the ward? Has it expired? If I gank top, will I be counter-ganked by their jger? If I help my top laner at lv3, will he dominate his lane for the rest of the game? shall I help mid to shove and back? How shall I help top? by help shoving or by ganking or by diving?

jg and sup are the 2 roles that almost focus on the mini map every second, they have the most game info, and they need to do inference to lead decisions/strategies. That's why typically in pro game, the commander of a team is jg/sup. However, in solo queue, jg has the more potential to start/end a fight/object than sup due to its nature.

That's why jg is so different and so important in solo queue, especially at higher elo.

Daddy Braum9/3/2017, 4:06:03 AM2 votes

Then don't auto fill support, adc, mid, or toplane as they all take "extremely different game knowledge" jungles aren't some golden child in the game every role is played differently and takes different knowledge to play right no role is given special privilege because its "harder" than another role

SSrikeShadow9/9/2017, 2:15:13 PM1 votes

The best solution is to remove autofill entirely or better yet remove the support role which is the only legitimate reason for autofill.

The Deckowner9/9/2017, 2:19:02 PM1 votes

Honestly, if you have a good understanding of the game, filling into jg isn't that hard. As long as you understand how to pressure the map, you can just pick a tank jungler, and do tank things. The only thing you might be lacking is the knowledge of camp timer, but even that is a lot easier since Rito made the idiot proof global buff timer.

Also autofill gives support and top a lot more than jg.

Escheton9/9/2017, 2:23:07 PM1 votes

So I should probably just practise some jungling then in case I do get autofilled and we don't have anyone who can cover.

Calabok9/3/2017, 5:52:16 AM1 votes

nope. autofill all roles to be fair to all

Kokua9/3/2017, 4:55:30 AM1 votes

People say that ADC's are what determine the outcome of a game now, thus those who help that role thrive, jungle being one of them, support being another. By that logic, I can also say that support is a crucial role that should never be auto filled because it directly affects how well your ADC will affect the map. Also, the ADC is such a crucial role, being given the weight of the outcome of the game on their shoulders. In turn, top is also quite the vital role, as if they don't know what they're doing, they get snowballed. That's a fact. And guess where that fed top goes next? Team fights, which they'll be at an advantage in.

Every lane is played different in a world that feels like it's stuck to a meta, thus forcing unique knowledge on every role. The best way to get a better knowledge about your lane and how others perceive you in your lane is to play multiple roles. That way you get to see that role being done from a different perspective, what you like about what that person did, and what you think could be improved. That doesn't happen if the only role you ever play is the same role you've always played.

Would you dodge if you knew that your support was auto filled? What about your ADC? Mid? Top? Why or why not? Why would you assume that someone doesn't know how to play jungle if they were auto filled into that role?