Is it okay to lose a ton of farm as long as you don't die to Renekton in lane?

Oelyk·5/25/2017, 6:46:45 PM·3 votes·238 views

Fresh out of a game that I lost as Jax vs Renekton, and I don't mean to insult our jungler for being a bad player, but he certainly made some questionable decisions and didn't optimize correctly in my eyes.(you walk from my tower into lane and he just flat out sees you? Is that really a gank path?)

Anyhow, he had a massive issue with me getting .5-1 flame horizoned nearly the entire game, calling me useless, and such, and wouldn't let me explain myself at all. I just want to know if I was actually doing the right thing or was I wrong.

6 Comments

tC0gzVJ6rF5/25/2017, 6:48:12 PM3 votes

You did the right thing. Renekton falls off late game whereas Jax is a monster after two items

Michael7025/25/2017, 7:21:55 PM1 votes

People are still playing Renekton even tho is W is broken? I tried playing him and wanted to kill myself.

GrandpaTheGreat5/25/2017, 8:33:45 PM1 votes

Most champs will outscale Renekton, Jax especially so. Essentially your whole job is to survive while getting enough CS to stay afloat until you and your team start outscaling him, and if that means giving up CS its ok. You might not be carrying, but you keep the Renekton from slaughtering your team. Ninja Tabis and a vamp scepter can help you survive, learning lane freezing can help in general, and you can dodge his W with your E (So you can neutralize his all-in somewhat).

Also, people in the lower divisions do not understand split-pushing AT ALL. You could be hard carrying, your split-push being the sole thing keeping your team in the game, and your team won't be able to tell your helping at all. To climb with split pushers, you need to realize that until fairly high up you CANNOT trust with your team on the issue of whether to team fight or splitpush, as it will turn into an ARAM siege in mid which is the absolute WORST situation that could happen to a Jax or similar champions. Even when behind on Jax, you generally want to be pushing waves/towers when you can safely do so (Or at least when your team is pushing mid or something) so you can force people to come top to scare you away instead of fighting the rest of your team.

SirLapse5/25/2017, 8:47:06 PM1 votes

In early trades you can prioritize using E for trading autos, but if Renekton started Q then this will not work. Try to ping your jungler so that they won't make a stupid play, but don't overthink it. Sometimes you need jungle assistance to secure CS and nothing more, not necessarily go and fight the enemy laner. Let the Renekton push into you, and when he leaves, you do NOT leave him 4 minions outside of tower or it will be a freeze. Get your jungler to help you break a freeze so that the wave will eventually come back to you. Understanding minion wave management will help you understand how to safely lane. You can ignore this of course if he builds Tiamat but always important to know.

Randuin's was a terrible option and you should've went immediately for Titanic Hydra after Tri Force. It gives you an AA reset after the active which boosts DPS IMMENSELY. Then can go Deadman's or something similar from there, prioritizing who is an actual threat in terms of what you're building. Your ultimate gives you free armor/mr, allowing you to be building HP earlier via Titanic and Sterak's Gage (which is best when against burst). Your build hurt you the most basically. Your runes should be focused around 2 Armor Quint, 1 Attack Speed Quint, Attack Speed marks, HP/Lv seals and MR/Lv glyphs or CDR/Lv. These matter quite a bit too.

Gameplay-wise Idk what to tell you because I didn't see the game. I imagine you tried walking up for CS instead of waiting for the wave to push back to you naturally and blindly pushed to tower when he wasn't there, getting smashed once he actually came back because you overstayed. Just a guess because it's a common mistake, but naturally it could've happened differently.