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Good advice is good advice

Stray Kat·8/6/2019, 5:04:24 PM·4 votes·1,600 views

Regardless of who it comes from.

It doesn't matter what rank you are, what your winrate is, how good you think you are... Good advice is still good advice, and a lot of this community doesn't seem to understand that.

It doesn't matter if the advice comes from an iron 4 with a 2% winrate - If it's good advice, it's good.

Just played a game(On my alternate account, Lunar Lalafell) with an Ashe and Kled who had 7 and 4 vision score in a 26 minute game. We were winning, they were both playing well. I said "Hey, you two are both doing pretty well - But you should really try to plop down a few more wards, vision wins games, you'll win even more. :)"

The response I get? "STFU shitter i have 6 accounts with higher elo thn u" followed by flames about "lmfao 200 games in gold 4 with negative winrate" repeatedly.

Firstly, I've got about 150 games climbing the account from bronze to gold, with a 49% winrate - A 54% winrate on Diana, the only champ I'm actually good with.

Secondly, and more importantly.. You have a SINGLE DIGIT vision score in a 26 minute game, with a champ who literally has a skill(Ashe E) that is devoted 100% to vision. I don't care if you're challenger with a 70% winrate - Someone saying "Hey, if you ward more it'll really help you win more" is still a 100% true statement.

It's not like I said "God you suck you need to ward more nub", I was extremely friendly about it and just pointing out that vision is extremely important. You gotta remember to step down off your high horses sometimes. I see it all the time on the boards as well where someone responds with "STFU ur silver trash im asking diamond+ only". It doesn't matter what rank someone is, use some common sense and realize that good advice is still good advice. Turn off your superiority bias for a minute and accept that lower ranks CAN have higher knowledge.

I guess this comes off a little ranty, but really it's just a reminder - Stop writing someone off just because "lol im higher rank than u" or just because they don't have a 70% winrate, or whatever other excuses you come up with to ignore good advice. If it makes sense, it makes sense - Regardless of who it comes from.

16 Comments

Zlera8/6/2019, 5:09:49 PM2 votes

You are 100% correct, but sadly people are very hardheaded.. "Youre bronze, stfu idiot" etc. But yes, good advice is still good advice, doesn't matter if it comes from a challenger or an iron player.

Hi im 128/6/2019, 5:43:22 PM2 votes

chances are you're wrong, often times in low elo the enemies are so easy to keep track of that you don't even need to ward, this is especially true for something like ashe. you might keep your wards for ward hopping or chasing an enemy into the brush to avoid getting outplayed.

of course they could be bad as well but this is the reason I usually have very low vision scores when I play in low elo.

The Ecdysiast8/6/2019, 5:18:52 PM1 votes

Vaguely stated general knowledge is not good advice. You might as well have said, "you should get more kills, Gold advantage wins games."

The other comment is wrong. You're only about 5% correct. Because the only part of your post that's right is the title, "[X] is [X]." Which literally can't be false.

YOU are the one who needs to get off your high horse, thinking that saying something as common-knowledge as "place wards" is advice, let alone calling it good advice.

uNhoLeee8/6/2019, 7:04:38 PM1 votes

  1. low elo you can run though wards for ganks because they dont watch their map. yet vision is useful for members who can watch the map and especially for a jungler to determine where the enemy jg might be.

  2. its no point telling others what to do beyond 1-4, split, match and go baron, dragon, group. half the time they dont listen to these calls either and will just frustate you.

  3. the amount of people who dont take advice from players divisions above them is insane. i laughed at this ashe taking all my jg camps after we took baron, and told him get out of the jg and pressure the turrets with us. he said the enemy will get the camps and he needs to stop them. i then looked and saw he was bronze 1 in a ranked gold 1 mmr game.. literally didnt bother (i think they have a mental defect at that elo) and just 4v5'd. (we lost)