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Playing In High Elo just as shitty as Low Elo

excodar·6/10/2017, 10:40:24 AM·12 votes·1,825 views

TBH this post is just a bunch of shit from different topics mixed in and the first paragraph doesn't even have to do with the title. I just like writing.

When I was climbing ranks from Bronze 5 all the way to Diamond 5 I felt like I accomplished so much being the top 2% of the ladder. I could improve without feeling any real pressure. But now that I've hit Diamond 3 I've learned so much about the game that I didn't know when I was Diamond 5. The skill gap between Master and Diamond 5 is actually the same as the skill gap between Bronze and Diamond 5. Playing a Diamond 3 game is WAY different than playing in lower elos. You are expected to play pretty much perfectly and that is the thing that drives me insane. When I was lower elo and I made a mistake I would just be like "eh mistakes don't really matter as long as i win". Now every time I make a mistake I have to question if I even belong in Diamond 3 or how I am going to reach Master or Challenger. I feel like I have really good Macro of the game now but there are two mistakes I make VERY often and it mentally fucks me every time I do it. I'm an ADC main and I've been using attack move since the day it got changed to target the nearest TARGET. I guarantee I have the shittiest mouse accuracy in mid diamond and every time I misclick during a trade or teamfight it makes me feel like crap. The second biggest mistake is not using heal before they ignite me. Its such a big habit using heal right before you die but now that supports are taking ignite you have to use it the second they engage I guess. I'm sure a lot of you would feel great after going 14/6/11 but I actually felt like shit after that game. I died twice to Jarvan with both my sums up when I could have easily flashed his knockup or healed his ultimate. Challenger players wouldn't have given those two kills.

I know that high diamond might seem like elo heaven to you people but its the same shit except more stressful. I get the same shit you people get from the player base, honestly it is probably even worse. There are only like 5000 people in d3+? that means i'll be playing in a mmr pool of around 1500 people which means you will pretty much have 50% of the people in your last game in the next game if you re queue after that game and you WILL face players multiple times even if you don't re queue. They make dodge lists and they also have intentional feed lists where they int if they get on the same team as a player on that list and you are one lucky fellow if you are on that team.

You also get treated like shit every so often. Do you know how many times someone has brought up that I have over [Instert any number over 200] games and I'm ONLY diamond 3. Oh yeah I did bad one game, I guess I do deserve platinum and I should end my life.

One more thing I should mention is when people ask how to get better at league from challenger players, they leave out A LOT of information. Sure, csing better and focusing more on objectives are good tips but there is so much more to getting better at league. It makes me sick when I see guides on how to get better at league when its the same regurgitated crap and if anyone has seen that CLG is partnered with Legendary Builds. As if looking at builds professional players are using is going to make you be better. There are also these apps that track what level your stats are at for each game like Lolsumo. Based on the time of the game it calculated what tier each stat is at like KDA, Kill Participation, CS. It's told me I've played like a gold player before.

I don't know these are just some thoughts at being highish elo. I wish I knew how higher elo players thought about things like these when I was low elo.

17 Comments

Sujiren6/10/2017, 10:57:57 AM5 votes

Thats some good insight, thanks for sharing it. I used to think, that Im hot shit and way better than other people in my division, till I noticed that I win more games in higher ranks than low ranks. Then I realised that its happening, because better players just carry me and Im merely playing good enough to get carried, plus I used to play tanks which are way more forgiving on the mistakes.

statelesskiller6/10/2017, 5:28:08 PM3 votes

here is the best tip i can give you. even faker fail flashes. even faker jukes INTO skill shots. even faker stupidly face checks bushes.

no one is perfect. you are only human. you belong wherever you belong, what anyone else says is irrelevant. if another D3 call you bad tell him "well im the same rank as you so"

making a mistake doesn't make you bad, it makes you human. learn from the mistake and keep going. you will ALWAYS make mistakes, there is nothing you can do but try not to make the same ones

Crimzyn6/10/2017, 1:24:41 PM3 votes

Nice read. Especially from a lower elo player like myself. Nice to get insight from a higher ranked player like yourself.

One thing I can say which applies to your situation here in league and how you describe trying to be better.

Here is an example of why PERFECTION and FAILURE are so closely related...

I use to play Badminton a LOT. And for example; When serving to my opponent, if I hit the perfect serve the shuttle would just BARELY clear the net and it would make it VERY hard for the player to actually return my serve... usually resulting in me getting a point. The perfect serve is 1 cm away from failure.

Apply this idea to League... you mentioned you died to Jarvan with 2 sums up and you could have flashed away. Perfect use or execute of lets say FLASH is a good example of this. You saved it for when you really needed it... in this case you hit the net and not the perfect serve.

BALDG1VEN BOOMER6/10/2017, 1:01:52 PM2 votes

Players in high elo are simply much better at punishing small mistakes, don't tilt yourself over that always try to think about what will happen when you make a move and if it'll be a negative or positive outcome.

Ungrateful Thug6/10/2017, 7:52:31 PM2 votes

<quote>One more thing I should mention is when people ask how to get better at league from challenger players, they leave out A LOT of information. Sure, csing better and focusing more on objectives are good tips but there is so much more to getting better at league. It makes me sick when I see guides on how to get better at league when its the same regurgitated crap and if anyone has seen that CLG is partnered with Legendary Builds. As if looking at builds professional players are using is going to make you be better. </quote>

This is why most "informative" streamers are absolutely worthless. They just say the same, stupid, common sense bullshit as every other streamer with the same schtick. Other times they give out information that isn't even information at all ("I need to farm wolves so I can buy a longsword,").

"Take towers," "be sure to last hit well," "buy wards," will only get you so far. That's John Madden-esque commentary ("whoever scores the most points wins the football game").

five oh tree 6/11/2017, 12:26:59 AM1 votes

An excellent read.

Bacef6/11/2017, 2:00:44 AM1 votes

Can relate, but not in league, but IRL

I'm a competitive martial artist with a 3rd degree/dan black belt (too young for 4th+) and it's pretty similar here. I get lower ranked competitors going: "Damn, I wanna be like that guy!" and not realizing the stress that comes with it.

Say you go into a sparring match, first to 7, 2 minute time limit. Kicks below the belt (with the exception of leg checks) are not allowed, and so missing a leg-check can actually give you a strike, which gives your opponent a point. It's a tight pocket and a lot of my matches have been won because my opponent missed a leg check, and right after the match is over their coaches or teammates (if it's a full team) decimate them for the smallest mistake, and like OP, I tend to focus on mistakes after the match, like not blocking when I should, etc.

Cowseed6/10/2017, 4:37:24 PM1 votes

I feel like they're some hidden message in this but I'm probably just being overly skeptical. Nice read and nice insight.

I found the point on high elo players neglecting to give advice and just repeatedly spouting the CS better line. There is also that point you mentioned on build. I do think that alot of people might actually be a lot better if they learned 'how' instead of 'what' to build. This has inspired me to analyze the game a bit further.

You sound burnt out though. You're in the top 2% so you aren't as forgiven as you would be in lower elo but your in the bottom of the 2% so you are still lacking in some knowledge and experience. I don't know if you've considered it you could take a break from the game though. Or if not the game you could just play normals or try your hand at flex. Flex is a ranked queue but you start from the bottom so rising quickly there may just make you remember how good you reallly are.

Hope you feel better soon ~ some random guy on the internet

Sauceyapples6/10/2017, 6:05:09 PM1 votes

First off, i really enjoyed this post. I don't really play ranked much because im usually in the game to have fun. Ranked makes me feel shitty. That's beside the point.

I have been playing a lot off and on again since season 3 and if there is one thing i do know is that guides do tend to have the same regurgitated crap. Build this! Use these masteries! Use these runes!"

I know and understand these things as is. I do however watch the guides/gameplay videos to try to emulate some of the things these champs do so i can improve as well. What to do as vi, what combos to use on lee. When is a good time to engage, farm, how to clear, how to position etc., then learning these situations in game myself and emulating. These cannot be stated as fact in videos because most of the time every situation is different. I'm not exactly high tier... But while i do agree builds are important with these videos... How they're playing is more important.

Renascent6/10/2017, 6:26:36 PM1 votes

Seems like I'm not quite at that level yet. But where I'm at right now, it feels like my wins depend on whether or not my team decides to call it quits before we start scaling. Meanwhile, enemy teams seem to be all about winning through making us rage through early game shenanigans before they can fall off.

Nameless Drifter6/10/2017, 11:22:24 PM1 votes

First of all you shouldnt feel that stressed. If you are entering a match already thinking "Am I good enough?" "Do I belong here? You are already entering a match unfocused, and that can make you hesitate or play too aaggressive thus the mistakes you said happen.

You need to look at your gameplay and give yourself feedback, improve where you think you need to improve and keep learning. Just because you are Diamond 3 doesnt mean you know everything or every tactic. Its a constant learning process. But again, dont stress.

Secondly, no one expects perfection. Yes people in High elo make less mistakes and when they do mistakes you get punished. However, everyone makes mistakes so you are in even ground with everyone. We are all humans.

Also dont listen to toxic people. Play your game, thats all. The best way to shut them up is ignoring and let them talk alone. Or Mute them.