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Elise's change in 5.12 bugs me.

NeekoNiiiii·7/13/2015, 10:07:10 PM·5 votes·1,191 views

Ok so Skittering Frenzy used to give the bonus lifesteal / attackspeed but now it only gives the attackspeed and now her Rappel gives the bonus lifesteal but with my interpretation only when you cast it on them the first time, like not casting on the ground getting vision then being able to get to your blue or your krugs or whatever. That's kinda icky in my opinion. Please correct me if i'm wrong but that's just what i get when i read the skill description. Another thing I don't like the lifesteal being on rappel is that when I rappel my spiderlings sit there like potatoes and don't do anything for a good second & 1/2, doesn't that make the elise lose out on possible sustain from her spiders? I want rito to change it back T-T or make the spiders less potatoe-y. I think they made the spiders do that because of tower dives but it still makes me mad that my spiders sit there not helping me against the jng monsters. Like am I doing something wrong when jungling with elise? Do you have to do a certain click or something to get the spiders to start attacking sooner? I know Q can make them fly at the enemy but it doesn't seem to help too much.

16 Comments

Mimaropa7/14/2015, 3:16:48 AM2 votes

They move the heal into a passive. Its somewhat 10+ up for each aa(I don't know if it also applies to her children). I tried her numerous times in soloq, it felt like nothing changed except that you gain early advantage in the jng because of the sustain. Its quite stupid to me that they gave elise's escape a buff when she uses it as an engage, she has bad mobility already(extra ms on spiderform doesn't matter if your prey could just dash away or even walk away since her aa is clunky). I just wish that they gave her a ms buff when she turns into spider form which decreases per second.

luckeyjoker7/14/2015, 1:05:19 AM1 votes

LOL only two people voted? Her steroids tied to her slowest spell, rappel, kinda sucks I don't advise using it in her combo to gain that extra boost. Use it to chase or if you have the time in jungle for that sustain. That boost could have gone anywhere in her kit but it got stuff into her spell she barely touch compared to her others. The buffs are welcome.

CatSith7/14/2015, 1:20:01 AM1 votes

They are actually fixing the bug for Elises spiderlings in the pbe.

Rick maher tweeted it.

https://twitter.com/ricklessabandon/status/618974368140390400

IMO, they should move the E rappel buff to her W skittering frenzy id rather have it for 3 seconds with a AS boost. It takes too long to go down using rappel to stay on the target after we stun them.

Abyssphere7/13/2015, 10:19:24 PM1 votes

The Rappel problems you listed are both bugs. Spiderling paralysis is getting buffed next patch.

I kind of don't like her sustain being boosted by Rappel now because her sustain is just outright weaker now than its maximum potential when it was attached to Skittering Frenzy, and her having passive healing just feels pointless - you'll only use it when Frenzy is active anyway. But it's nice to not have to rely on sipderlings staying alive at least.

allsop7/14/2015, 3:27:29 AM1 votes

Im not sure if you even read her skills? But The passive lifesteal is on her spider form not her rappel? Elise should very seldom use rappel as an engage unless trying to quickly peel for someone or get on someone over a wall. Elise is so simple. I have played tons of games as her she is my main and most favorite champion. Ganking: (If clear shot) E, Q, W, R, Q, W and if they flash E and spider Q again when its up if needed which it probably shouldnt be needed. If not clear stun Just walk in Q W if you know itll hit them and jjust be paitent for the stun. She has amazing burst and good at killing tanky targets with her Current % human Q and missing % execute in spider. And im sooooo happy that someone posted that shes gonna be getting another buff. In all honesty shes perfectly balanced And can dominate if you actually know how to play her. Youll get the occasional scrublord who says something along the lines of "but shes so weak" "but.. but.." ect. Elise's new little buff made me quite happy even though i thought she was good before that too. Now when you tower dive earlier with the rappel Q You have higher chances of killing your target which i like.

allsop7/14/2015, 3:32:19 AM1 votes

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Ok so Skittering Frenzy used to give the bonus lifesteal / attackspeed but now it only gives the attackspeed and now her Rappel gives the bonus lifesteal but with my interpretation only when you cast it on them the first time, like not casting on the ground getting vision then being able to get to your blue or your krugs or whatever. That's kinda icky in my opinion. Please correct me if i'm wrong but that's just what i get when i read the skill description. Another thing I don't like the lifesteal being on rappel is that when I rappel my spiderlings sit there like potatoes and don't do anything for a good second & 1/2, doesn't that make the elise lose out on possible sustain from her spiders? I want rito to change it back T-T or make the spiders less potatoe-y. I think they made the spiders do that because of tower dives but it still makes me mad that my spiders sit there not helping me against the jng monsters. Like am I doing something wrong when jungling with elise? Do you have to do a certain click or something to get the spiders to start attacking sooner? I know Q can make them fly at the enemy but it doesn't seem to help too much.

The lifesteal isnt even on rappel. Read her moves again. Or I'd sugguest you pick and play a new champion.

TheI3igDaddy7/14/2015, 1:23:35 AM1 votes

Hehe....bugs you.