Aphelios has a kit that makes all other ADCs inferior

DeusVult·2/12/2020, 3:23:46 PM·22 votes·11,505 views

For instance, every other champ in the game has skills that scale with level. You have to choose what skill to max first, and hitting certain levels (6,9,11,13,etc) for that spike in skill based damage is a huge portion of this game.

This matters to ADCs less than most other champs. The reason that ADCs go bot with a support is that they dont need XP in the same way that a mage or assassin mid needs XP. ADCs scale far harder off of gold than they do off of XP, their skill damage is mainly to get them through the early game to the point where they can just auto everything to death.

Aphelios doesnt have to deal with this. He gets free stats per level instead of having to scale a skill, yet all of his weapons and their Qs do good damage or have great utility from the start. IMO if other ADCs could level stats instead of skills and instead have a higher scaling on their skills, most would go for it. Aphelios also doesnt have a niche. His niche just depends on whatever weapons he has atm. The problem with this is Aphelios is the best at whatever niche he has when he has said weapon, yet can then go be the best at another niche when he gets a new weapon.

What do I mean by this? Take Aphelios's starting two weapons - The sniper and the pistol. With sniper, he has Caitlyn range (650) so he can easily harass in lane, or farm from extreme range if he needs to play safe. Caitlyn used to be played A LOT because of how much of a lane bully she was, but now she loses to Senna and Aphelios. because Aphelios, while he has the sniper, does what Caitlyn does, but better. If you engage on caitlyn though, she might have to back and leave lane; Aphelios gets his pistol out and gets some of the best sustain in the game.

https://clips.twitch.tv/GracefulSleepyHamAMPEnergyCherry

His pistol, when its up, makes Aphelios one of the best sustain champs in the game. There is no other ADC with the capability to build 0 lifesteal and yet heal from 10% to full after getting chunked out of a fight.

You could have a full champ based off of these two things alone and he would be great, but Aphelios is an infomercial.

His next two guns are gravity gun and the flamethrower. Gravity gun, when its up, makes Aphelios one of the best, if not the best, utility ADCs in the game. Ashe used to be the premier utility ADC, providing slows and really good hard engage with her ult. Ashe passive slows for 20-30% (30% at level 16) for 2 seconds. If she crits, it doubles to 40-60% for 2 seconds. Aphelios, because he doesnt have to level anything, just starts with 30% slow for 3.5 seconds, which decays to 10% after 0.7 seconds. So for 0.7 seconds he has a stronger slow than ashe, and then the slow lasts almost twice as long. Not only that, but Aphelios can combo that with his Q to turn that into a 1 second root. With his ult, he can apply multiple marks that he can turn into roots, making him a god tier engage ADC.

Flamethrower turns Aphelios into a fantastic waveclear and AoE ADC. His attacks basically get turned into ranged tiamat strikes. Crit strikes make said tiamat strike bigger and stronger. Jynx has to pay mana for her extended range aoe waveclear, sivir spends all of her mana early clearing waves, and then has to scale to be a threat as an aoe teamfight ADC. Aphelios, when he has flamethrower, just is. And when he flamethrower ults, he becomes an enormous threat to a teamfight happening in a small corridor.

The last gun, and no one understands this one, is chakram. It makes it so that Aphelios cannot auto until his chakram returns to him (cool concept) so he can became an insane DPS champ if he stands very close to his target. From the standard concept of an ADC, this is insanely cool and different, as usually ADCs want to be at max range from their target. But then their is also that Aphelios can stack chakrams, again, in a way that no one can really understand. And when he has a bunch of chakrams, he just flat out becomes one of the best DPS champs in the game, to match the likes of Kog, Twitch, and mini-gun jynx. You can have 300 armor and 3500+ health, all of a sudden Aphelios with 10+ chakrams kills you from 200 range in less than a second. 2 seconds prior he is dealing minimal damage with his sniper, but then he can just enter god mode with a new weapon. it also gives him heimer turrets which can do some other really weird shit.

In conclusion, Aphelios is a top tier example of garbage design, as he dabbles in every niche, yet when his is in that niche he is the best at said niche. The saying is "jack of all trades, master of none, but better than a master of one" Which means that they have tools for everything, but lose in certain circumstances. However they are more adaptable than the "master of one" Aphelios doesnt follow this mantra though, he is jack of all trades, master of all trades, and better than the master of one

40 Comments

Chembaron Yamada2/12/2020, 6:01:43 PM13 votes

Yes, this here.

How Aphelios is designed, he should have the niche "jack of all trades, master of none". He can be an AoE teamfighting ADC,can be an utility ADC, can be a duelist with high single target DPS.... But he should never be as good at these things as the ADCs who are supposed to be specialised in this.

However, this is not true for Aphelios. Right now he is "Jack of all trades, master of them all!". He gets to be as strong at these niches as the ADCs who are specialised in these things. Why pick Jinx for her great teamfighting potential, if you an pick Aphelios, match her teamfighting potential with his flamethrower easily, while also getting all these other tools giving you way more options?

SiG DxD2/12/2020, 5:01:16 PM4 votes

so does senna

so does every new adc /champion

all have broken overloaded super good at everything kits

Nea1042/13/2020, 12:15:54 AM4 votes

Didn't they say that he was gonne be "the most difficult champion to play" in League? And he got to 50+% WR in a few days? Good concept, competent designers!

Hayaishi2/13/2020, 1:39:34 AM3 votes

Aphelios should be the 1st retired champion.

Clockwork Mouse2/13/2020, 3:16:00 AM3 votes

It was CertainlyT's final fuck you to Riot.

zepdrix2/13/2020, 5:09:21 AM3 votes

Aphelios is such a wasted opportunity.

They could have designed him so that he's able to max 2 or 3 guns completely, with maybe a few leftover points going into other guns.

That way, you would be able to specialize him. But instead... you simply pump stats into him. It's so mindless.

Pumpedhero2/12/2020, 5:04:00 PM3 votes

I actually do not understand why people whine about aphelios.. hes not exactly a good champ, only about a 50% WR unscrewed, same for senna.. They have VERY obvious counter play, and they are just like the other poke adcs, they 100% lose all ins against them at early levels.

floo2/13/2020, 6:38:43 PM2 votes

You forgot to mention that he doesn't have to build item 3035 because some brainlet gave him armor penetration per level. That not only opens up his build path, oh no. It makes it so you cannot even tank him properly to force him to buy any LW item. How the fuck am I supposed to play the game if his flamethrower R into 3 people still deals 1.2k damage to me as Nautilus with 200+ armor?

Worst design in league history. Senna had my perma ban for the 2 months she was the newest champion and somehow they outdid themselves in garbage designs within just 2 months. Hilarious

Mavëríck2/12/2020, 5:42:08 PM2 votes

I just rofl stomp Aphelios with Galio support. It's funny.

Thefrostyviking2/13/2020, 12:05:01 AM2 votes

The downside of aphelios is the fact that unlike other marksmen he actually needs EXP more to get his bonus stats and he also has this weapon rotation system......he might be a master anything he presently has up but what he does not have up he cant use.

And his overall main weakness is always there, he lack of mobility and speed.

Some choice examples :

  • You engage on him and he has a sniper and a flamethrower? He dies.

  • Ranged champ goes on him when he has chakram and gun? Range haha,,.....

  • Melee with high tenacity/unstoppable effect gets on him when he is lugging the root+rifle around? He does no damage and dies.

Him being immobile and slow also makes him highly vulnerable to stuff like Ashe ult which is likely why she has consistently good winrates into him, taking her arrow up his ass must make winning or even going anywhere hard for him.

HOWEVER.

He is overtuned so he is a bit too good at what he does, i do not mind this master of the trades system on rotation but right now it´s more like Grandmaster of systems on rotation which is a bit on an issue to say the least.

Not 100% presence in proplay level issue but 80% level issue.

only luciano2/13/2020, 5:13:28 AM2 votes

MF was designed to be an AOE focused adc with a strong early game passive because she's not good at shredding tanks late game. Aphelios flame thrower does what MF does but better. Every auto is a a MF Q but with a 5 way bounce instead of one and his ult is MFs except he is not stationary and the AoE is actually bigger.

huhndog2/13/2020, 4:06:12 AM1 votes

Would have to disagree. Kai' sah is the worst because she will permanently be in meta due to her evolve passives

vgamedude2/13/2020, 1:02:08 AM1 votes

ADCs have a kit that make every other class inferior.

Nyarlathοtep2/12/2020, 9:03:13 PM1 votes

it also gives him heimer turrets which can do some other really weird shit.

Dont forget their inability to target them until the become active.

King Lego2/13/2020, 10:44:35 AM1 votes

Hmm Why can't aphelios' levelling be by levelling up one of his guns rather than his stats? That way it would require proper thinking rather than having weapons that are always good options at whatever situation.

NelsieLisnen2/13/2020, 12:06:11 PM1 votes

Not really. At least Aphelios can be caught out when he has the wrong gun combo. Xayah on the other hand always has her teamfighting power in stock and something like Senna can basically lane by herself.

Flawless Fetus2/13/2020, 12:39:29 PM1 votes

His winrate is crap, and it's not because he's op. Cait shits on him as well...

kaitlynfeartech2/13/2020, 12:50:46 PM1 votes

I need a detailed rundown like this for champions like Qiyana and Zoe lol

Smashed Hash2/13/2020, 3:06:22 PM1 votes

M6 Aphelios, working on that M7, and after playing him non-stop, no other champion feels like him. He is extremely fast paced in everything he does.

I get bored now, when the champ has a slow kit.

Worst JG Wins2/13/2020, 3:42:20 AM1 votes

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https://clips.twitch.tv/GracefulSleepyHamAMPEnergyCherry

His pistol, when its up, makes Aphelios one of the best sustain champs in the game. There is no other ADC with the capability to build 0 lifesteal and yet heal from 10% to full after getting chunked out of a fight.

He legit isn't full... he is above full, he literally got a Shield from his lifesteal.

ADCs are about items. When one ADC gets a better BT and a Better frozen Mallet and a Better RFC and a better Hurricane and a better weird(melee rageblade) all for free.

Oh and for some reason he gets an longer range ultimate Heimerdinger turret as a basic ability for some reason.