Reworks contain a mostly worrying trend

AirKingNeo·11/17/2018, 4:47:37 PM·14 votes·4,385 views

Most recent reworks are either completely garbage and terrible picks (Yorick, Nunu) or they're completely broken in competitive play (Aatrox, Irelia, Swain, Galio, Ryze the Xth).

I think that if a reworked champion starts to fall into one of these categories, I feel a hard look into their kit and functionality is necessary. Players of a champion should not have their champion effectively removed from the game and designers need to correct this.

47 Comments

Moody P11/17/2018, 6:19:45 PM9 votes

you asked for this to happen when you started demanding for more skillshots

reminder that Warwick is a stat check and he's the most appreciated rework ever

D357R0Y3R11/17/2018, 5:27:22 PM6 votes

Warwick is perfect, I really like CertainlyT for that

He did Akali, but i'll wait more time to judge. The last W CD nerf actually hit her really good as she can regen less energy than before.

Sire Hippington11/18/2018, 11:23:39 AM3 votes

That's not just Reworks, most new releases have similar issue. Riots design philosophie since S5 just is 'who needs weakness when played perfectly' with sometimes a bit 'gimicky shit that holds the champ back' thrown on some...also, they just don't give a shit on anyhting from the past, they don't care about vetrans, old design values or, in case of reworks, the original champ and it's playerbase...

Stephenizgod11/17/2018, 6:19:36 PM3 votes

Yorick was neither terrible nor garbage, he is in a bad spot right now due to completely needless nerfs the moment he showed up in higher elo and proplay. But as far as reworks go he is really good, he has a niche and a unique playstyle. All of his abilities have strong counterplay and moments of strength. The reason people don't like Yorick is because they don't know how to deal with him because they don't see him all that often. Riot is making sure that stays true.

DM For Rat Facts11/17/2018, 4:54:00 PM2 votes

Its a tough thing, balancing a rework. In every rework they attempt to keep the core of the champion the same, to differing success. The balancing in meta part is the same as adding a new champion, it's hard to balance a champions kit without LOTS of play testing.

Illabethe11/18/2018, 7:10:11 AM1 votes

Technically Nunu is extremely strong when played correctly. The problem is..... not enough people picked him up more than one game to learn the right balance of items/strategy/working his Snowballs to actually GET to play him correctly.

Don't discount him. He's actually an extremely solid rework.

And Yorick being crap? What world do you live in? He can split push better than any champion in the game. Can int push a lane better than Sion. He has a few counters, but most champs struggle laning versus him and most teams can't shut him down enough to stop objective creeping by either him or his team (when the other team goes to kill him)

Also, I've never seen Ryze actually enter Competitive play..... He's a Gold rated champ with an insanely high skill cap who is prone to gap closing, CC teams. Sure. He can hit like a truck when fed. I won't deny the chains are there, but there are so many counters to that chain that even good Ryzes generally follow the flow of the game's probabilities rather than "talent." Ryze wins based on his team, not himself. (It's kind of sad when a Low HP Karma can run Circles around a Ryze and destroy him)

Pika Fox11/17/2018, 6:15:26 PM1 votes

Almost all of these are fine. The only real point you have is yorick, but hes always been niche anyway.

Akali, irelia etc are all mostly balanced. Hell, akali is even sub 50 w/r at all ranks. None are obscene.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M11/19/2018, 6:19:22 AM1 votes

Yorick and ryze are recent?