Caitlyn isn't OP, it's her support who is OP.
Hello guys, i have almost 200 000 mastery point on Caityn and i like her kit but she isn't OP.
First i play bot only (almost, sometimes i go mid or top). I alternate games beetween support and adc. And i can tell you one thing : Cait isn't OP! Not at all.
The only reason of why you think she is horrible is her support. Cait needs an agressive support with damage and CC and if she can have it, it's can be hard to survive the laning phase. Otherwise, if she has a non-agressive support, she is useless before lategame.
Let me explain to you :
When you play
with supp like
, you can't really say it's Cait who is op.
Why ? Because it's her support who will do the play and then, she will lock you. But unless her support doesn't CC you, you have no reason to get trapped by her W, to get hit by her Q because it's easy to avoid these spells.
I mean, with every adc, these supports will give you a hard time if you don't have something vs their hard engage. Caitlyn works well with them because they provide peel and CC which is what she needs the most. No need to blame Caitlyn when you get hooked by a
or by a
, tell yourself that if it's was
etc, you would be dead too.
Second : Cait is very very squishy. Once you approach her, you win. You can't lose vs a Caitlyn when it's come to DPS. Any adc can dps better than her. You need to bait her E and you can kill her pretty easily if you have the tools.
All you need is to move and not being trapped. It's not that hard to do please... Most of the time when i'm play Caitlyn, my enemies don't walk in traps. Why you can't do the same then? Without her passive, her dmg is low.
Look at this video and how many mistakes the opponents are doing :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E91a2ax082E
0:20s Sion walk purposely on the trap. Pls don't tell me he didn't see it.
0:40 Ashe walk on the trap... she didn't saw Cait animation or ?
1:10 Tp behind tower, great idea vs Caitlyn...
1:32 The towerdive was very bad idea but the trap was visible and Ezreal walked in for no reason...
1:50 Karma has CC MF, allowing Cait to put her trap and combo. Nothing OP, it's just synergy.
1:58 Rengar walk in the trap... Another stupid mistake
2:25 She is too feed. With another adc, it's would have been the same result, she is 6/0/1 before the fight.
2:35 Talon walked on the trap purposely, he deserves this headshoot.
2:42 Nice play from Cait. I mean he towerdived, he lose. It's not OP to survive vs an assassin, especially if he is playing bad.
2:51 Neeko walk in Cait trap... Another stupid mistake that could have been avoided. The traps aren't even in a bush.
2:57 Cait used her trap in a smart way. Also she was feed. It's just an outplay but without flash, she was dead. Ofc the dmg may seem crazy but she was feed with
...
3:23 It's Bard who is the main player here. He catched the enemy team with his R, stunned Lucian and Ryze with his Q... Caitlyn only have followed him. There nothing OP about Cait here, if you want to complain, complain on her support who has played well.
3:31 Another TP vs Caitlyn, why do i feel like it's a bad idea ?
3:34 Akali deserve it, she is stupid honestly. Never TP when Caitlyn is here. Also Cait is 3/1/8 so she is pretty feed.
3:39 Akali dash on Caitlyn trap who is visible from miles, wow.... What a great and smart move.
3:42 Ofc she dies... If she has dogded this trap, she would have killed Caitlyn. Btw Caitlyn is feed too.
3:44 Nautilus walk in Caitlyn trap...
We are in 1/3 of the Video and most of the death are from players who don't understand that they must not walk on Caitlyn trap. It's sad but i can't help. I can't help you dudes. I mean when i play Caitlyn, if you walk on my traps like these guys, don't expect me to not kill you. You deserve it !
3:59 Nocturne walks in the trap... But Caitlyn was too feed so it's don't matter. 4:23 Bard help Cait to place a trap. Cait isn't OP, she is just following. Nothing more, nothing less. 4:37 Really Morde ? Walking in caitlyn trap? Nobody dogde the trap in these plays...
Honestly i can tell you if i was playing Cait, the enemies would have dogded this trap. When i play Caitlyn, there is 0% chance that i trap someone if i don't place my trap in the bush or if a mate don't CC a target for me. In these clips, it's look like nobody is doing something to not walk on this stupid trap.
Ok get out of the video, we have seen enough of it. Now you know what happend when you walk on Caitlyn trap which isn't really a surprise.
Do you realize that Caitlyn play only with her E and Auto attacks when you play good vs her ?
Caitlyn Q : Skillshoot with 1s cast time. Yes, 1s. Don't tell me you can't dogde it. If you can't dogde it, it's because you are CC or because you don't dogde but it's your fault anyways. Caitlyn Q dmg is reduced when it's goes trought minions. In Mid/Lategame, this spell become useless if Caitlyn isn't feed.
Caitlyn W: Like i said, it's easy to avoid the traps. Unless Cait is with a good support with CC, she can't trap you. If you are walk on her trap while not being under CC or something, it's your FAULT. And you deserve this 600 dmg Headshoot.
Caitlyn E: Can be annoying but has a long CD and most of the time, it's not enough to escape. A lot of people are thinking this spell counter all engages. Caitlyn has 0 mobility, that why you take
. Because if someone approach you, you are dead. Having a good range is a strong point but if you don't have any escape and mobility, anything that can approach you will kill you.
Caitlyn is like Xerath. She is annoying because of her range, but if you approach her, she will start to become stressed.
It's not easy at all to survive with Caitlyn, especially when your opponents has the tools to approach you.
Caitlyn R : Useless in teamfight, one of the worst ultimate. Except getting some lucky kills or assists, this ulti is situational and most of the time, you don't use it.
So, if you play good, Caitlyn has 1 spell and auto attacks. You can dogde the rest and it's not that hard.
Caitlyn isn't easy to play, she is very hard actually when your opponent has a brain and when you don't have a support that do your job.
I heard some sentences like "Caitlyn go with every supports".
Not, it's false dude. If your support don't have hard CC, it's lose. No trap = no dmg. Soraka is kind, Soraka is a good support but not with Caitlyn. Don't forget that if Caitlyn don't win early, she is useless untill lategame and when i say lategame, it's 5/6 items for her, because like i said, she plays with 1 spell and autos if her opponents aren't stupid as the ones in this video.
Basically, if you don't get feed with Cait, it's lose unless your mates carry for you.
It's easy to criticize Caitlyn but ofc, if she is played with supports who can help her to place her traps, she will be strong but it's not Cait, it's her support. It's called "synergy".
Maybe Caitlyn synergies are too strong but that is the only power she has. Her dps is bad, her dmg is low and unreliable because everything is on skillshoots and she is squishy but extreme squishy.
Caitlyn kit is annoying because she is rewarded for having a good support
Caitlyn is mostly passive in lane unless her support decides to engage or CC someone. Caitlyn may be annoying because she is the kind of champ who wait her supp to feed her.
I was playing for a long time with a friend and he was a
main. We have done a lot of Caitlyn/Thresh bot lane and we was winning our lane 80% of the time. If you had told me Caitlyn was OP when i was playing with this friend, maybe i would have say "yeah she is OP".
Now my friend is gone, he stopped playing and i realize that i'm useless and i lose my lane in 60/70% of games. And most of the time, i realise i'm with a support who isn't agressive or who don't have enough CC.
Is the support my problem ? No but it's make everything on Caitlyn. When you play Cait, you are 100% reliant on your supp. You are an adc who wait to get feed by his support. Yeah we had a good synergy my friend and me but when my Thresh main isn't here, i can't play correctly.
That how Cait is and will always be. She is a baby who wait her support to feed her some baby bottle filled of milk. When you play Caitlyn, you expect only one thing : Your support to do the job.
Or your opponents to be very bad but that isn't the case in most times.
It's easier to play Vayne in solo Q than playing Cait. With Vayne i'm at 100 000 mastery point and everytime i play her, i get feed even tought i play but horrible. I mean i have 10/12 death per games with Vayne but i have more kills, it's funnier too... I don't even play correctly otherwise i wouldn't have 10/12 death with Vayne per game but you see, i'm stronger with her than with Cait and yet, i played Cait more than Vayne.
**If you need to remember anything on this post, it's would be this : **
Caitlyn isn't op, she is only annoying because she synergises well with agressives supports otherwise she is terrible. She isn't easy to play and if you feel like it's easy to play Cait, i'm telling you to play her in solo Q and do 5/6 games. You will understand how much you are weak with Cait when your support don't give you free kills or when the opponents aren't brainless.
She is called a "noobstomper". Ofc, it's easier to play Cait vs bad people who don't dogde anything. Honestly, if i would play vs this type of people, i would always be 10/0 in all games but it's not the case. Maybe you have a bad experience vs Caits but you should look before raging : Does she plays with a friend? I have told you, Caitlyn is very reliant on her support. She needs to be feed to be useful because her mid game is awful. Most of the time, if she plays with a friend, it's not hazard. Maybe you should be more feared about her support.
Honestly i think you can win vs Caitlyn. It's not that hard. She isn't OP and she is very situational.
A bad Caitlyn will have a bad placement and she is free kill.
Caitlyn isn't the adc i would recommend for people who want to start to play adc. She isn't easy at all. I was surprised to see her in my smurf account. I had the choice beetween
and
i think but i'm not sure for MF. It's was a free adc for new players.
Caitlyn shouldn't be on the list. She isn't easy at all. If you want to start your career as adc, you better pick MF, Sivir, Tristana or Ashe. They have a good utility, good dmg. I mean you can't be useless with Sivir because you have this MS boost ulti.
Ashe has slows and stun, if you are bad you can still do something.
Tristana is like Cait but stronger early and you don't need to synergyse as well with your supp. Cait is 100% reliant on her supp, Tristana isn't. That why if you want to play in solo Q, i will told you to pick Tristana instead of Cait. You have same lenght weaknesses (Tristana is good early, fall a little in mid and hypercarry late and Caitlyn good early, fall in mid and powerful in late). Tristana can 3-4 shoot Cait with her bomb and Cait E isn't enough to escape from Tristana. I'm surprised you complain about Cait but not Tristana who is easier and safer.
Mf has large zone of dmg and her ulti is still powerful even behind. Mf is also strong in lane.
Caitlyn, if you can't play her and if your opponents aren't bad, you won't do a thing unless your supp carry you. I'm sick of people saying she is easy but no, you are wrong, she isn't easy at all. She is just a lane "synergy" champ. She needs CC to place her spells and deal dmg. It's strong but it's mean you are 100% dependent of your support or 100% dependend on your enemies mistakes. It's not a good thing when you want to enjoy playing if your champ relies on another champ to do the job. It's a big weakness and you should consider it.
Caitlyn don't need buff, don't need nerfs. The only thing she might needs is maybe a rework to make her less dependent of her support to do something. Actually she don't really feel like a Sniper and most of her abilities are easy to dogde and are useless (Q and Ulti in lategame).
it's because of her support and not her just right-clicking me?
ok xD