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Just my Opinion on Garen

Sean Nguyen·8/4/2014, 12:29:29 AM·1 votes·1,007 views

Keep in mind, this is coming from a Riven main, so it doesn't mean much, but I have some ideas that might help balance Garen.

  1. Make the cooldown on his Q go down by level instead of having a flat 8 seconds
  2. Reduce his base movement speed, he has the Q movement speed buff, also it will make it more difficult for Garen to stick to his target while E is active.
  3. Reduce the time Garen has to use the silence after activating Q As Riven, he can activate Q, but if you stun and E away, he can still catch up to you and silence you.
  4. Reduce the Q and E bonus AD ratios. The Q AD Ratio does more than his base AD already (140%) PLUS it deals the bonus damage from the ability itself [PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 (+ 140% AD)] [PHYSICAL DAMAGE PER SECOND: 20 / 45 / 70 / 95 / 120 (+ 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 / 110% AD)

Thanks for reading my post and drop a comment if you have any other ideas...

8 Comments

Hoi Im Temmo8/4/2014, 2:14:46 AM2 votes

Hmm

  1. I would say cd of 10/9/8/7/6
  2. As a garen player, I have found it necessary to get some quick boots before as it is; don't agree with this, but hey, opinions.
  3. Yes. Not only is it to long a chance to silence, but the CD on it is miserably long if you AREN'T being aggressive, because it times out the silence long after the mvement buff.
  4. I don't know. I feel it is in a good place. If you force garen to actually build damage, then he would need compensation by increasing his natural tankiness...
Angry Monster8/4/2014, 1:01:06 AM1 votes

So wait are you saying Garen is to strong?

Sean Nguyen8/4/2014, 1:33:39 AM1 votes

If you stun him right as he attacks you with Q you still get silenced. If you stun him, he still spins.

Tormakus8/4/2014, 12:59:46 AM1 votes

You can't really balance a champion based on one champion only. Garen is good on Riven but he can't really compete with any other tops. Even if he does does well, after laning phase he isn't very good.

snelly128/4/2014, 2:12:19 AM1 votes

I'm sorry but I had to stop reading after "help balance Garen"....

Yeah Garen is somewhat annoying in lane but there is a reason he isn't a top tier pick :)

Funky Ducky8/4/2014, 4:58:58 AM1 votes

Garen is all about the laning phase. Of course he is strong there, but his kit offers no utility in teamfights not to mention an extraordinarily long cd on his ult. He's a beginner champ and he's fairly well balanced. It's not to hard to lane against most Garen's (Garen was my main for ages as he was my first champ).

Stephenizgod8/4/2014, 1:34:10 AM1 votes

Garen is fairly balanced, even Riven can beat him you just have to outplay him, bait his W as engaging him when he has it is dumb most of the time, it has a long CD so when he wastes it go in. I main Garen top so i know that there is plenty you can do against him, things that really annoy me in lane when done. Sure he is a force in lane but he is very easy to outplay. Also he brings no hard CC to the table so ignore him in a teamfight and wipe his team out, he can literally do nothing about it.