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The Destruction of Rengar, and /r Rengarmains (Rengar Poll)

Diet Coke Fiend·1/26/2017, 3:11:28 AM·25 votes·7,685 views
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Rengar TLDR: Rework is awful, Rengar community destroyed, Please Revert Rengar Rengar Dear Riot, item 3070 queue sad musicitem 3070 I was just a simple Rengar main. I played jungle and even top, and such a wonderful time was had. -Rengar's Q was so clean, the stab, the comboing of it. It was..... delicious. -Rengar's W was useful, it gave you a chance to sustain in a lane. -Rengar's E was notoriously buggy as hell, but for the most part it was useable.

Now, Rengar feels just bad. I was one of the first on r/Rengarmains to come out with the:

"has anyone noticed how clunky Rengar feels?" "Anyone notice how he is less fun to play, but more broken now??" "Does anyone else feel like this rework was a spit in the face?"

I was met with immediate skepticism:

"It is just on the PBE, of course it is a buggy mess" "You're just complaining you have hardly played it"

But now the rework has been out for months and the r/Rengarmains has been destroyed. Many Rengar mains leaving the champ, and many leaving League of Legends.

I think it is time to admit, this rework was a failure. In patch 7.3 his W will become borderline useless, and his Q will be losing its only intresting feature.

For me I am going through a crisis. Rengar has never felt more awful to play. I hate playing him, but he is good. In Season 5 I had 100 games of Rengar, and I stopped playing League halfway through the season. In Season 6 I had 200 games. This season I believe I am around the 60 mark already. I am not new to Rengar, and I am not new to Post Rework Rengar. The thing is, Post Rework Rengar, is NOT RENGAR.

From the bottom of my heart I am calling on you to pull a Kog Maw on Rengar. Please revert him. Please stop so many Renglets from leaving this wonderful Cat. Please repair the community (r/Rengarmains) that you destroyed. Please fix the identity crisis Rengar is having.

Rengar is no longer an assassin, the changes in 7.3 will end any chance of Assassin Rengar's survival. Don't let this monstrosity to continue. Bring us our old kitty back.

EDIT: Literally as I posted this I checked r/Rengarmains and saw this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rengarmains/comments/5q6u3q/was_fun_here_but_im_leaving_this_subreddit/

This is another well respected, long time Rengar main leaving the Rengar community due to not only the rework, but overall treatment of Rengar, please Riot item 3070

32 Comments

Dısdaın1/26/2017, 7:03:24 AM7 votes

True words. Riot killed a whole community with the rework, and now there make it even more worse.

Variks the Loyal1/26/2017, 7:10:17 AM6 votes

I disagree.

As someone who's played Rengar for a long time, I love his rework. I love Battle Roar and it's heal and cleanse. I love his ultimate, which truly feels like a hunt. I love his Bonetooth Necklace; taking a trophy from everybody is much more satisfying than just gibbing the same, poor sap over and over.

The only thing I was ever iffy on his his new Q, and frankly, I've gotten used to it now.

Rengar is fine. More than fine, he's great. He feels more like a trophy hunter than he ever has.

hunterspec1/26/2017, 3:14:05 AM4 votes

no one has pity for the whiners on /r/rengar or /r/yasuo

Phyuq Yiu1/26/2017, 3:44:07 AM3 votes

Agreed dude, this Rengar is shit. Strong, yes but this Q and ult seem stupid. Having to collect everybody for your stacks is kinda dumb. The Q looks so bad. Old Q, old W old passive was better. The ult idk man. Theyre just doing too much too fast, they need to.. focussssss

Stalinapproves1/26/2017, 5:51:01 PM3 votes

Sadly I'm no true rengar main like most of you but I enjoyed him while he lasted. I want to tell a little story, so there I was at the beginning of season 6 being new to league and learning. I still remember first time meeting a rengar player I was truly terrified by him and what his kit had to offer... I felt hunted. Then some time later I played him in a free rotation in the jungle. Oh boy let me tell you as I moved through the jungle I felt like a predator wandering through my terrain. I stacked ferocity and waited in bushes thinking about what combo would be good in that scenario. Do I need dmg? Do I need to root in case he has flash? Or can he burst me down and I should use my heal? And everytime I used my ult it was like a little adrenaline kick I synchronised my heartbeat to the ones I heard feeling like a true predator showing them what fear looked like. With every trophy I gained I greeded for more. Also trying out ways to see how quick I can perform a triple q or even quad qs or even ap rengar. It was fun times were good. Then they reworked him I played him on pbe and thought it was slow and clunky/forced. On release I played him again and got some quadras even unofficial pentas in the first couple games but it was no more fun he is just plain broken, his ult destroyed his hunter identify, his q was just totally not fitting and destroyed counters like quinn or teemo cause it is not an aa anymore, and his w is what destroyed his role I think. I mean an assassin with cc cleanse? Healing any burst dmg up to 100%? Also you don't need to worry about combos anymore because you just need to spam abilities and use empowered w to escape. I think they seriously fucked up and hope they revert him cause he ain't fun to play for me anymore

Surr20plz1/27/2017, 7:22:36 AM2 votes

A spit in the face isn't a phrase we use.

You're a russian spy!

Bladeless Rengar1/27/2017, 1:37:25 PM2 votes

They killed Rengar, old Rengar was better.

xayn1/27/2017, 4:43:12 PM2 votes

It's kinda hard to vote because I am okay with the new rework, but if I had the option of switching back to old Rengar I would in a heartbeat. But since that's not an option (and it never will be), I guess I'm fine with the rework.

Rengooo4/15/2017, 2:08:17 PM2 votes

Well what do you know, Rengar's still endlessly nerfed, still clunky as hell and is pretty much azir 2.0 - nerfed into oblivion because hes too strong in the hands of pros who play him tank/bruiser, some assassin rework, good job riot.

Pierce The Veal1/26/2017, 8:22:12 PM2 votes

As an Akali main:

Welcome to the club.

I saw what was happening to Akali on the PBE and I was like: fuck no, that's gonna ruin akali, make her clunkier, and just make her more toxic and prefer to build tanky.

Everybody told me I was wrong, and "wait it's just temporary she's gonna get a VGU anyway."

Look where we are now. Also no VGU in sight.

Black T Poison1/26/2017, 11:42:56 AM2 votes

If they do revert him it will most likely be in season 8

INT INT INT lNT 1/26/2017, 7:55:23 PM2 votes

I always loved rengar and I also love the rework idk why people cry

Kaioko1/26/2017, 8:36:57 PM2 votes

I don't play Rengar so I can only offer the perspective of someone who was forced to play both with him and against him --

He was absolutely awful almost worse than yasuo to have either on your team or the enemy team. He was such a feast or famine champion that could just abuse one person to get the stacks he needed. His ultimate had no counter play and he had absolutely no presence pre 6.

Honestly he was one of my most banned champions and most of the time it was because I simply did not want him on my team. I agree that the current version of Rengar needs some balance but I'll take it any day over the old one from a force to play with/against Rengar perspective.

FKRangedTops1/26/2017, 9:10:40 PM2 votes

Rito its just trying to get her objective MAKE RENGAR TANK

With those w nerfs or u buy tank, or the moment u leap with ur r near a tank, U DEAD

Q , just dont does that dmg for those sweet "adc in 2k17 LOL" so yeah buy tank for dont die

and then the fkin R THE FKIN R get the crit off it is like make a ult just a gap closer for ingage or catch up

GJ RITO!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

JUST FKIN REVER IT IF U DONT KNOW WHAT TOO DO Rengar item 3070

ggigotfed1/20/2018, 5:05:11 PM1 votes

New rengar. Buy duskblade buy infinity edge ult and right click. But he's too risky with very little payoff, he requires a fuckton of gold and usually gets invaded by lee sin or xin or shaco because they know he CAN'T win a fight early game, and if he falls even slightly behind he's worthless and they will win for free.

Rengar should almost never be picked unless you're premade and someone can spoon feed you. He's just a shit version of khazix now.