Will something be done about all these ranged champs in top lane?

Gator Raid·10/24/2016, 1:11:09 PM·35 votes·2,863 views

It's been all over top lane for weeks now. As a primarily bruiser/tank player, can we do something about this? There's just nothing you can do to them unless you play someone with multiple dashes or a hard gap-closer like or . I'm tired of picking a bruiser or an immobile tank like or , and the enemy picks some of that meta stuff and says "You are not allowed to have fun for at least 20 minutes, if at all." It's so annoying. Can we do something about this, or at least provide some sort of counter play, because if the jungler ignores you, you're screwed. It's a matchup where the outcome is out of your control. Just make it stop.

62 Comments

TacoTheKitten10/24/2016, 7:49:37 PM24 votes

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Ralanr10/24/2016, 1:12:38 PM14 votes

I mean, Sion's E build is kinda meant for this problem.

Pill Slinger10/24/2016, 8:44:45 PM5 votes

8 of the top 12 win rates are for melee champs. Keep complaining.

Kaioko10/24/2016, 9:29:03 PM5 votes

The point of putting a ranged top is to counter those melee champions though. You give up a lot of tankyness in teamfights especially if you don't in turn have a tanky jungler. All of those champions also are pretty easy to gank but if you're jungler doesn't want to help you well then that's unfortunate for you but not so much the champions fault.

Woodakoodashooda10/24/2016, 1:47:26 PM5 votes

Vayne and Cait have joined in on the top lane bandwagon too as of late. If you are top and you have to pick before the enemy picks their top lane. You either need to lock in something with a gap closer or something with range anymore. Last time I went Illaoi in top, the enemy locked in top cait. I couldn't get in close enough to do anything to her. And soon, she had her trap spam all around my turret just so I couldn't defend it or farm under it.

Guess what champion I'm not playing again.

But, you know, ranged champions in top making melee champions irrelevant is super okay, right? Because Riot has yet to address it. So it must be just fine!

Marshbouy10/24/2016, 11:54:48 PM4 votes

3 of those champions have >3% playrates.

all over top lane

lol.

Jax Cramer10/24/2016, 1:15:15 PM4 votes

Riot doesn't care. This issue has existed since Season 2 and it only got worse with every season basically. Top lane is horrible to play for melee champions....whats the point of picking a melee when you lose half your hp whenever you try to cs just because the enemy is ranged and can rightclick you to death?

it be lìke that10/25/2016, 1:11:20 AM4 votes

idk why people are milking this so hard. it always goes the same way (at least it should)

x ranged champion dumpsters you early. you buy an item component or two, hit level 4-5 they can no longer out trade you because odds are you can sustain better.

the rest of the lane phase is yours to lose now, unless you let them free farm or fed them early.

dont you dare even include Quinn in this unless you are speaking about horribly bugged champions who barely function.

AttackOnTeemos10/24/2016, 1:28:55 PM2 votes

DrMundo Shutdowns half of them Tested the other day. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2327695571/34553032?tab=overview

Spoofghoul10/25/2016, 3:43:23 PM2 votes

item 3075 buffed to return 100% of damage on the first attack

gold cost lowered to 50 gold so you can start with item 1054 alongside it

Troll for Trump10/25/2016, 1:36:59 AM2 votes

Where dafuq is Gnar ?

MunchCrunchLunch10/24/2016, 4:35:15 PM2 votes

Swain Kayle Quinn Ryze Kennen god top lane is so cancer because of these. oh dear lord i want to stab myself with a dull pencil because of them

JustMonika1310/24/2016, 11:57:28 PM1 votes

Yasuo Yorick (for the immobile ones) : ^ )

Liofa10/25/2016, 12:41:41 AM1 votes

Yeah maybe when they make it so champs like Trundle or Fiora can't just press a button and you're done you can't fight them anymore.

AcidTheWarlock10/25/2016, 12:57:47 AM1 votes

When did Swain become a problem? I've never played against him yet. Teemo and Kayle, however.....AAAAAAHHHH

BoilTheOil10/25/2016, 12:58:17 AM1 votes

not Vayne Ryze or Graves

Legacy Hydralpha10/25/2016, 12:58:30 AM1 votes

Ryze has always been a bit of a top laner, Teemo has been top (and everywhere else) for a long time, and I'm pretty sure Quinn has been a better top laner than ADC for a while.

Swiftstrike410/25/2016, 7:52:24 PM1 votes

I think the only champs that are frequently seen top lately are Kennen Jayce and Gnar .

Of the 3 Kennen is clearly crazy strong because they can zone you well early, has high mobility, and scales really well. You can even kill them multiple times early and it does not really effect them if they get just 2 items ( item 3152 and item 3157 .

The other two have had less success (gnars win rate isn't that high and he is a utility pick) and with the penetration builds changing I don't think those two will be much of a problem come preseason.

I think people find range top laners a problem in low elo because they don't know how to farm under tower very well, take unnecessary hits trying to get CS, or keep building damage items when their first back should be a defensive item.

Basically, many are stubborn.

whensmarvel10/25/2016, 11:19:15 AM1 votes

Teemo has always been played top dont see why hes a part of this. He loses most matchups mid.

His kit is so simple aswell. As long as he doesnt snowball, his powerspikes arent as strong as most of the champions he faces top anyway.

PermabannedGaren10/25/2016, 7:31:13 PM1 votes

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It's been all over top lane for weeks now. As a primarily bruiser/tank player, can we do something about this? There's just nothing you can do to them unless you play someone with multiple dashes or a hard gap-closer like or . I'm tired of picking a bruiser or an immobile tank like or , and the enemy picks some of that meta stuff and says "You are not allowed to have fun for at least 20 minutes, if at all." It's so annoying. Can we do something about this, or at least provide some sort of counter play, because if the jungler ignores you, you're screwed. It's a matchup where the outcome is out of your control. Just make it stop.

Why do you live in a fantasy world where Poppy isn't meta and can't be picked into ranged champions?

She is literally one of the few melee champions being picked top lane in worlds.

FioraWillCarry10/24/2016, 7:52:55 PM1 votes

I don't get it ? If top lane ranged champs are so OP, why don't you guys just do that yourselves instead of complaining to Riot. There's no rule saying you gotta go top with a bruiser or tank. I mean think for yourselves and stop being to slavishly devoted to the meta and then wonder why you get shat on when someone actually uses their grey matter to stomp on meta slaves. Go mid Garen or something. Try that.

Rivuo10/24/2016, 1:29:26 PM1 votes

I mean they just introduced a 3% max health mastery for your first auto in 9 seconds... So hey, Just when you thought grasp of the undying was too hard to proc as a melee champ!

Even Fiora has trouble in top lane right now.

The only thing you can really do is pick a straight tank and just be more relevent for team fights. And yeah thats before Jinx melts you mid game because she has 2.5 attack speed and red buff + fervor doing an extra 200 damage per auto to ya

But hey, what the fuck do i know.

AirKingNeo10/24/2016, 11:12:55 PM1 votes

No we're nerfing Fervor for all the brusiers (and Kayle) despite them not abusing it hard and making it BETTER for AD carries.

Also Ryze because he has a 2 second root and a speedup+shield just incase they jump on him after his root.

Durfain10/24/2016, 11:35:25 PM1 votes

Hey man, Riot have big plans in Season 7 to help you out in top lane!

Fresh Blood (tier 2) NEW! ◾ Effect: Basic attacks versus champions deal 10 (+1 × level) bonus damage. This has a 6 second per-target cooldown. Greenfather's Gift (tier 4) NEW! ◾ Effect: Stepping into brush causes your next attack or damaging ability to deal 3% of their current health as bonus magic damage. This cannot happen again for 9 seconds.

Well shit. Well, at least they're buffing the resolve masteries so when I hug my turret all game...

Siegemaster (tier 2) NEW! ◾ Effect: Gain 8 Armor and Magic Resistance when near to an allied tower.

...I get a whole 8 armor....................?