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I will never ever make it out of Bronze

Anatharion·12/6/2016, 4:18:51 AM·19 votes·3,484 views

I've played this game for two years. And I had a 20 game win streak with Aurelion Sol and Ekko and got to Bronze 1 but I have never ever been out of Bronze.

I usually win lane. I very rarely lose lane 1v1. If I do lose lane it's because i'm playing versus a strong jungle and mid combo. Also sometimes the support shows up to triple bang me.

I focus very hard on early game CS, warding my bushes, and trading with the enemy. I play safe early.

I roam when I'm ahead, can push my lane, and feel strong. I also will follow my enemy mid laner if they suddenly show up in bot lane.

I warn people when my lane opponent is missing.

Back before the Nidalee nerfs I could win games with her in the Jungle. I used to main Aurelion Sol in the jungle before his W nerf and could destroy there.

I know when to push, I know when to take objectives, I know when to team fight.

However, I can't carry teams when Bot lane ADC feeds. Which is 50% of the games. I can't carry when players on my team who are feeding go AFK which is about 25% of my games. I can't carry when ADC's don't know when to 5v5 team fight and instead are in bot or top lane CS'ing while our team is getting forced into a 4v5.

There are more smurfs in Bronze than anyone could ever guess. Nearly every game has a smurf from Silver or Gold in it.

Anytime the enemy team notices we have an afk any smurf on their team will just split push to victory.

I hate Bronze. I'm not perfect but I land my skill shots with a very high degree of accuracy. I can thread in auto attacks. I know what to buy, what masteries to use, and what marks to have in. I know how to buy items to counter my enemies strengths.

I was maining Anivia before she got nerfed. Ahri is my favorite ever champ and she is still strong, also my Velkoz is frightening but I got bored of him. My Jayce is a beast but its hard to win if Mid or Bot feeds when I'm playing Jayce top with no tanks on the team.

Thanks for listening.

65 Comments

Nipsahoy12/6/2016, 4:48:47 AM16 votes

I think I see the problem. You believe your own play isn't the problem and that it's some other players fault that you can't climb. That's your first mistake. Trust me you don't play well anywhere near as well as you think you do because if you did you wouldn't be in bronze. When you think you are doing everything right and your teams the reason you can't win you stop looking for ways to improve your own play. I'm not amazing myself, best I have done is get in gold 1 promo matches to plat, but didn't win. But I always look for things I can improve on in my own game because at the end of the day that's the only thing you can control.

If you wanna climb the best thing you can do is just play your lane well, CS well, understand how to play the macro game as much as possible. Know when you push turret, and when to back out. Understand the map, don't push up if enemies are missing and unaccounted for. If you win your lane a lot which you should if you are as good as you are claiming then you can use that advantage to help your other lanes by either getting turret money early or roaming and securing kills to get your other lanes ahead.

Everyone has games where they get the feedbag bottom lane or the top that afk farms top for 25 minutes, or the mid that gets destroyed and mid ends up camping your lane more than the jungle. Everyone gets that but guess what people still climb. Just have to be the difference maker on your team.

KcbmsQxbPL12/6/2016, 7:28:34 AM9 votes

One man says he can.

One man says he can't.

They are both right.

5050BS12/6/2016, 10:12:41 PM3 votes

Luck of the draw plays a HUGE role in if you can get out of a ELO

You can get chain matches that have troll/afkers and there is nothing you can do about it.

Dodge matches where you can see a troller in champ select. You lose less LP

Bob413112/6/2016, 5:48:15 AM2 votes

I climbed from Bronze 5 to Gold 5 this season, so I think I have at least a little authority on this matter. You can climb out of bronze, regardless of your teammates. You have to find a champion you can have maximum impact on and spam the crap out of them. You cannot blame your elo on your teammates. As many people have said and I will say again, the only thing about every loss of your's that is the same is you. You have to get better and learn to carry games and have the right mindset to win.

Incarceration12/6/2016, 10:39:01 PM2 votes

lmao u die as much as i do in my flex games where i troll. If u actually did as u said u do, you should be out, not in bronze 4. U even have developed rune pages, so it's either you don't have the mechanics or the game knowledge to carry because u should be able to since i did the same and got out.

Supreme Senpai6912/6/2016, 12:32:52 PM2 votes

I had this same problem but in silver. People say things such as "feeders or AFKs or trolls have a 50% chance to be on enemy team or your team and will even out." But I went from an 83% win rate to a 65% win rate on Janna. I would win 4 games then lose 1, etc. I was pretty good I thought. Then out of nowehre came an 11 game loss streak. My KDA or playstyle didn't change, I just kept getting nonstop AFKs and trolls. Yet the enemy team has never to date had an AFK, and only once did they have a "troll." It was a Teemo support but to be fair he easily had twice his entire team's damage.

I found out it was because I played near the end of the season when all the trolls came out, and the enemy team would never get them because they were smart and queued as premades of 4-5. That way the trolls had no room on their team.

Don't get me wrong, you're not a god at this game. You have so much room to improve. If you truly deserve to get out of bronze then you will. But it will take a lot of games. To cut this down, play with a friend who is also your skill level. That's one less feeder/troll on your team.

Wheatloaf12/6/2016, 4:54:55 PM2 votes

How does one get... bored... of Vel'Koz...?

AninLegions77712/6/2016, 3:27:35 PM2 votes

Simple. When you get into promos. Play braindead champs that you've practiced on normals. Yi, Tryn, Veigar, usual shit. Win promos then go back to your other characters. Now if you don't want to do that, here are a few tips:

Don't roam too much in bronze. Take turrets. Just make sure you ward before pushing. If you push, the enemy jgler will have to gank you which allows your other lanes to be under less pressure.
Sneak drakes with your jgler as soon as possible. If you have an AD non-tank jgler, try getting a 6/7 min drake. It's a huge advantage.
If you roam bot and kill/chase the enemies, take the turret or at least do a lot of dmg to it. Don't just go back to your lane.
You said you play ekko and A. Sol. J can only speak for ekko, I'd advice you know how to utilize his passive. Learn how to predict enemy movement to drop your W. It's pretty easy. Try getting 40/45% CDR ASAP. You have your ult up more allowing you to go all-in a lot of times. Ekko takes turret like a beast after Lich Bane. If you are losing, look for an empty lane and PUSH. You'll be surprised how many turrets you can take. After 3 items don't be afraid to fight multiple enemies. Your passive + Lich Bane + TLD proc will probably kill the enemy ADC. Take exhaust to survive duels. Try to maximize your Q potential.

Really basic stuff but yeah, that's about it. Just don't stop trying and you'll get there. Took me 1k games to get to silver in S3. Haven't look back since. Good luck mate.

Sup im Carrier12/6/2016, 3:27:39 PM2 votes

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Laxfan5212/6/2016, 2:55:03 PM1 votes

Last game I had a yasuo main go adc and he carried me. I was playing malphite top and I just played safe til I could get a good ult off.

YoungFarmer12/6/2016, 3:20:17 PM1 votes

I was placed bronze 5 the beginning of season 5 and climbed to plat 5 this season. You can do it.

n64bomb12/6/2016, 3:23:41 PM1 votes

The truth is, if you want to move up from bronze, you have to look at yourself and improve. Watch a few of your replays, especially the ones where you lost. If you aren't able to see any mistakes you can work on, please post them so others can help you. We mentioned a lot of ways we found successful when improving, but the truth is, you just need to be better than your counterpart on the enemy team and you will consistently improve. I did this with soraka/janna/sona, even when I had an ad player that was close to worthless.

Only skill matters until you get to diamond. Don't worry about counterpicks or the meta champions; play what you are good at (because, quite frankly, your opponent isn't good enough to punish your mistakes in lower levels) and focus on what you can do to be better. Don't worry about "x champion counters y champion", because even if you are in a counterpick matchup, your opponent will not play it at a diamond level and will make so many mistakes that the counterpick becomes irrelevant. Whenever I tried to explain this when I was in silver, people could not get it, and constantly tried to argue with me over it. I finally gave up on getting teammates to not pick based on a counterpick. COUNTERPICK MEANS NOTHING IF THE PERSON PLAYING THE COUNTERPICK IS A 3/10 ON THE SKILL LEVEL WITH THE CHAMPION. It's better to play a champion that you feel like you are a 5/10 with comfort.

It's the same with respect to item builds; there is no point telling someone what the optimal build is or what they can build better if he/she just blindly follows 1 build order every game with no deviation. You will notice at bronze/silver people don't coordinate at all, so people will form a 4 ad comp with 1 support, and have no tank, and the jungler and top will build all ad. That is horrible...someone has to be the frontline...but it doesn't matter if you ask someone to build tanky--he/she has already decided what he/she is going to build. So it is a waste of time to talk to people about item builds (for the most part) in silver/bronze (and even gold) because they won't listen anyways--there is a person every once in awhile who will listen and actually consider another's suggestion before immediately thinking his own idea is better, but that is not the norm in bronze/silver/gold. It's the same with grouping (people kind of group where I'm at, but they won't in silver and don't even understand why you group in bronze).

The tone of my posts is still the same; you must look at your games and find the root problems of your mistakes and fix them. :)

notice me Sin pi12/6/2016, 3:42:08 PM1 votes

watch your own replays and i promise u will find things u could've done better to solo carry, especially since u r playing mid

Randomonium12/6/2016, 4:00:34 PM1 votes

I used to think like you did. Then I joined a group with higher ranked people than me (gold to diamond) and realized that while I was better than most bronze players I was nowhere near as good as even our worst gold player. After getting my ass kicked for a couple months I started being able to hang with the gold players. When I went back to playing ranked I found it extremely easy to climb out of bronze.

I highly recommend you find a group of higher ranked people or get some coaching (lol-coaching.com has some good free coaches.)

It Hertz When IP12/6/2016, 5:32:04 PM1 votes

Best bet is to make like Nick Fury and assemble a team. (u c wat i did thar?) Find a couple of other people in the same predicament, set up a Discord/Curse channel, and coordinate as a team.

Kirius Dark12/6/2016, 5:38:13 PM1 votes

If you knew when and how to take objectives you could be 1-15 and still win the game for your team by just taking towers and being where the enemy isnt

Looking @ your match history you dont even know hwo to build the champs that you pick and use power spikes in items to your advantage. IE - Jayce - wtf are you doing building a tear? Is this 2014? It kills your early game and you're relying on the other person to be terrible in order for you to stay relevant when you throw the first item back away

You also seem to think that anytime an enemy goes to hard carry that theyre a smurf as if no one else in bronze or silver can carry, and that losing to them isnt your fault when theres a ton of other things you need to do to be better but think you're already there

Rozair12/6/2016, 5:40:48 PM1 votes

Last season I felt the same way. I was in bronze from season 3 to last season. Then I just connected with Diana like you wouldn't believe. I climbed up to platnum just by playing her consistently and well. While doing this I didn't realize it but I grew skills as a player that I could carry to other champions. I learned a specific role and tried to master it. My best advice is to focus on the things you can do with a specific champion that can carry games. For example if you are really good at vel koz zone the enemies back so your adc can attack the tower. If your an odd duck and you like consistent lane pressure all game play tryndamere or heimer. Focus on your strengths and prefect them. You will always have weaknesses and they are harder to work on than strengths.

grug12/6/2016, 5:46:20 PM1 votes

Bronze players shouldn't get this much sympathy.

as a veteran of 750 bronze games, I have legitimate grounds to scrutinise this.

If anyone bothered to look at OP's game history, you can see that he takes thunderlords every game meaning he has low capacity for adaptation, his cs is very inconsistent, plays too many champs, almost always plays AP aside from Jayce, almost always plays ranged champs.

He also appears to feed excessively, unnecessarily and extremely hard in some matchups that dont even appear that hard.

Overall I think this player is diversifying too much and not adapting to the situation enough, dude also never upgrades his trinket for whatever reason. anyone can get out bronze by just simply winning their lane and pushing that lane until the end of time, if people keep coming to that lane then go to other lanes and do the same thing. helping the team is a complete waste of time,

Speeedy12/6/2016, 5:51:38 PM1 votes

As someone who got out of bronze myself from never picking up lol till season 6 i can tell you my experience as an ADC main im silver 5 though

Mid/ADC/Support are the worst roles to carry yourself out of. Why? You have to hope your top and/or jungle pick tank characters so you have a front line to engage with otherwise if you dont win early like by 15-20 min soon as they have 1-2 tanks to dive on you and you cant kill them your team just evaporates since your all squishy.
Farm I won most of my games by just simply out farming my opponents. Go into an empty server and just practice farming should be around 70 @ 10 min and 170 @ 20 min. Also these numbers are just guidelines as each game will dictate how much you can get. I have had games where i was 4/0/1 with 40 cs at 10 min and others like 2/0/0 with 80 cs @ 10 min. Each game is different but you generally want to perfect your farming ability then learn how/when to trade.
Change your build order to what the other team is building, if the enemy team had 3 people with armor/health i would build a Lord dominiks instead of going another AS item
Dont Die - self explanatory
Control wards, my supports never warded so I had to learn how and where to place the trinkets to not get ganked
Copy pro builds for the characters to an extent - Goes with #3 but dont build an item you dont need because a pro built it. Though they do usually have the most optimized build for a character so it is a very good starting place for runes/masterites/what items to get.
Keep a small champion pool - 2 per role and master them, do not play 30 champions at a crap method instead of playing 2 very well. Once you get to silver I would slowly open it up by 1 additional in your main role.
Que up for the same 2 roles every game - this way you are only learning 4 champions (incase 1 gets banned out you can play the other) it is a tad harder with autofill now but that rarely happens in bronze/silver since so many people are that elo

Darkeus12/13/2016, 5:53:45 AM1 votes

I feel like this today. Like I will never make it out of Silver II. My Win/Loss record has been horrible since I went 8-2 in my placements.

I am so tilted. Lol. I know I need to get better but one thing I did notice in Silver 2 is that the ADC's are very salty.... I mean, good lord are they salty. They really give up so easily.

Roam Support12/6/2016, 4:38:52 AM1 votes

and people actually believe boosters are a myth xD

Hrd2H1t12/13/2016, 10:14:47 PM1 votes

Honestly the best way to carry in Bronze is to play a supporting champion, and make it harder for your allies to feed.

Calabok12/6/2016, 4:45:41 AM1 votes

what's wrong being in Bronze? it aint so bad

bad arcade kitty12/6/2016, 5:53:39 AM1 votes

i dunno, if you have a problem with cs you can always play jungle, and for an easy ride there is always playing support

HongChongDong12/6/2016, 7:12:54 AM1 votes

Typically means your mechanics are lacking. It's perfectly possible to make it to D5 with proper mechanics and super basic game skills alone, so if you're struggling in bronze then you're lacking BIG time in the most basic area's.

Jyoeru12/6/2016, 8:39:06 AM1 votes

They do need to remove the universal notification that X player has disconnected. Yeah, let your team know your top laner DC, but why is it letting the enemy team know that?

ScissorsNstuff12/6/2016, 11:56:44 AM1 votes

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I've played this game for two years. And I had a 20 game win streak with Aurelion Sol and Ekko and got to Bronze 1 but I have never ever been out of Bronze. Back before the Nidalee nerfs I could win games with her in the Jungle. I used to main Aurelion Sol in the jungle before his W nerf and could destroy there.

I was maining Anivia

wrong champs

Ahri is my favorite ever champ and she is still strong

right champ, wrong rank

Velkoz is frightening but I got bored of him. My Jayce is a beast but its hard to win if Mid or Bot feeds when I'm playing Jayce top with no tanks on the team.

more wrog champs

barbarianskull12/6/2016, 12:36:39 PM1 votes

You just have to get lucky tbh

Rockm Sockm12/6/2016, 2:09:42 PM1 votes

A lot of good advice in this thread but they missed something.

The SoloQ soft reset this week might fix some of the massive boosted and mmr problems dynamic que brought to ranked.

Then we will only have to watch out for autofill feeders for the most part.

Right now, silver isn't any better. Over 90 percent of the games are complete stomps with one side feeding horribly.

I would say enjoy your climb and just focus on getting better each game.

Dolfanatic12/6/2016, 2:21:23 PM1 votes

If you're willing to, have Curse and want to learn a few things about map play, I can help you out. Send me an add, would be fun to play and give some insight on things. I may not be the best player mechanically, but the map game is where I excel and end up climbing.