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I may quit JG! Advice needed.

Duke Dryfocker·6/16/2018, 10:58:25 PM·3 votes·2,841 views

I have basically played ARAM and features the entire 8 seasons. I'm a noob, but I do care about winning games. I almost always have fun even though I suck, but I do try hard. That being said, I have been trying the Rift again lately, with practically zero success unless I'm carried. My JG experience has been horrifying. I always seem to be placed on a team that's losing lanes and that doesn't help.
I either start blue or red then do gromm or wolves and take the path to 3. I can usually get to level 3 at about 3:45. So far so good. Then I'm out of camps. So I either check for scuttle which has usually already been grabbed, then I check lanes to see how I can help. I have failed at ganks more than helped. So that sucks. Either I don't come in when lane is pushed just right, or the lane doesn't react to what I'm doing. Now, I'm starting to fall behind in level cause I'm not camping, and that's when things snowball downhill. I can't catch up, My lanemates all need help at the same time. If I help one the other gets mad. I think, unless someone can help shed light on it for me, I should either try Nami support, which I had some success at, or just give up and go back to ARAM. It's way more fun it seems anyway. TY for the help in advance. The champions I have had limited success with in JG are, Fidds, Nunu, Shaco, and Olaf.

5 Comments

BEST MEAT BALLS6/16/2018, 11:19:16 PM3 votes

since you have been playing arams and came back to the rift , u need to watch how they play it... good luck my friend

Brutalitops016/16/2018, 11:42:16 PM2 votes

For clearing the jungle, paths are based on which champion you're playing. Is your pick reliant on the mana regen from blue? Start there, then take Gromp and get ready for the scuttle crab to spawn. I would do this on level 6-required champions as well, since most people don't clear krugs in the first clear, you can go Blue -> Gromp -> Scuttle -> Enemy Krugs -> Your Wolves -> continue clearing your jungle. Krugs give the most experience, and Raptors give the most gold, so taking the enemy Krugs is a good idea on champions like Diana or Shyvana, who need to rush to level 6 as quickly as possible. Even with the recent nerfs to jungle exp, doing this clear gives you level 5 right away, assuming the enemy jungler didn't counterjungle you at all.

Regarding lane positioning for ganks, that's also very relative for your team comp regarding if you can dive or should wait until the wave is closer to your turret to look for the gank. If you're playing a tanky champion, like Maokai, Zac, or Sejuani, you can probably get away with tanking a dive so long as you back off at the right time. You can also do this on ranged champions like Kindred or Twitch, sticking closer to the edge of turret range and backing off when another hit would be lethal to drop turret aggro. This is the best way to do a ranged/melee 2-man dive where nobody involved is a pure tank. Also generally, don't dive enemy tanks or assassins who are above at least half health.

Jungle is the most strategic role by far, and takes a lot of both learning champion picks and their strengths and weaknesses, and learning game knowledge of when is a good time to do certain things. It's for this reason that I highly recommend everyone to main jungle for a month at least, just to learn these things and also to learn not to blame the jungler if you're losing your lane solo. I definitely don't get mad at people who do that and refuse to gank them for the rest of the game ;)

Ulquiorra01236/17/2018, 8:08:27 AM2 votes

Nunu unfortunately has an issue where at lower elos he is complete trash because your team has no clue how to play the game, But in higher elos hes pretty good. The only thing I do differently in lower elos is just not care about the game, as it is truly a coin flip and there isn't much you can do if you aren't playing an assassin, you are kinda at the mercy of the stupid fights your laners take. Just play for fun until you hit platinum, which you will eventually do if you are sitting around a 50% win rate. When you hit platinum, the whole game changes, as my friend who mains sion is finding out now how right I actually was. They are just far better quality games, almost like people finally start caring about winning. That is the best advice I can give honestly having an account both in high and low ELO.

Just play for your own enjoyment, toss away caring about winning until you hit Platinum 5.

mack91126/17/2018, 1:28:49 AM1 votes

First question who do you jungle

SirLucsean6/17/2018, 1:34:16 AM1 votes

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I have basically played ARAM and features the entire 8 seasons. I'm a noob, but I do care about winning games. I almost always have fun even though I suck, but I do try hard. That being said, I have been trying the Rift again lately, with practically zero success unless I'm carried. My JG experience has been horrifying. I always seem to be placed on a team that's losing lanes and that doesn't help.
I either start blue or red then do gromm or wolves and take the path to 3. I can usually get to level 3 at about 3:45. So far so good. Then I'm out of camps. So I either check for scuttle which has usually already been grabbed, then I check lanes to see how I can help. I have failed at ganks more than helped. So that sucks. Either I don't come in when lane is pushed just right, or the lane doesn't react to what I'm doing. Now, I'm starting to fall behind in level cause I'm not camping, and that's when things snowball downhill. I can't catch up, My lanemates all need help at the same time. If I help one the other gets mad. I think, unless someone can help shed light on it for me, I should either try Nami support, which I had some success at, or just give up and go back to ARAM. It's way more fun it seems anyway. TY for the help in advance. The champions I have had limited success with in JG are, Fidds, Nunu, Shaco, and Olaf.

Hey lad what's your age? #1 JG rule save your smite don't waste it on blue or red either side when you began that's why it called a leash. I have to keep telling kids that but they don't listen so they get behind in exp.